A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

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Here's what I was thinking back a few months ago:



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I made a similar point and I feel based on physical profile, and reputation, this is the best comparison. Ironically people back then wanted the Magic to pick Okafor cause he was more NBA ready and Dwight had a habit of "not always playing hard". You look at AD's profile coming out of college and it was "can be moved off his spots in the low post, plays timid sometimes, offensive game is a work in progress."

He was 20/10 his second year.

Dwight was like 15/10 his second year.

Wiseman is gonna be good almost immediately it's just a matter of how good.
 

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Summary:

# Thoughts on Players:
* Everyone is rusty (but felt good) due to mainly doing individual workouts until recently (like Steph mentioned)
* How Kerr thinks Steph looks (physically & mentally):
* Curry lookin good
* Heartbreaking to not see Klay though
* **Thoughts on Eric Paschall**:
* Looks good, worked hard in the summer, great physical shape
* Biggest Challenge: Improve Defensively & how he can make an impact on that end (knows how he did/can do offensively from last year)
* Thinks he's looking good defensively so far
* **Impressions on the Newcomers** (Not Including Wiseman):
* Other newcomers look good though (Feels like the 1st Day of School where you're happy to see everybody)
* Likes to see Bazemore back in a Warriors uniform, Oubre is fun to coach, and rookies like Nico pick things up very quickly (esp noting that Nico is a talented young guy)
# Thoughts on Draymond & Wiseman:
* **Impressions on Wiseman**: Wiseman didn't show up ([we all know why by now] (Warriors' Draymond Green, James Wiseman test positive for coronavirus))
* Draymond didn't practice ([we all know why by now] (Warriors' Draymond Green, James Wiseman test positive for coronavirus))
* Thinks he will be fine thought once he cleared for practice
* **How They're Dealing with Draymond & Wiseman Missing Practice** (More so Wiseman):
* Coaching staff has been showing Wiseman tape for the last few days
* Giving Wiseman homework (not ideal but that's just how 2020 is)
# Related to Covid-19 Protocols
* **Question about how they're easing previously covid-19 positive players back in**: Kerr is gonna defer to the medical staff & follow the protocol/procedures when it comes to them coming back
* Mentioned Procedure: Cardiogram that all players have to go through, Period of time (several days) where the 2 players (Draymond & Wiseman) can come in the gym, but can only watch before they can actually practice
* **Filling Positions in Covid-19 Situations**: "Next man up" because that's the nature of this season (every team is gonna have to find a way to deal with this)
* Reminds us that any difficulties that come up this season places in comparison to what's happening in this world
* Won't be much talk on the Warriors' end when it comes to covid & protocol and all that matters is the safety & protocol & ensuring everyone follow it
# Warriors Training & Staff Related:
* Had smaller groups for station works (defensive and offensive skills)
* Controlled scrimmage for when they had all 10 players
* **Warriors Staff in Charge of Defense** (asked if Ron Adams is still the defensive czar): Jarron Collins is the Defensive Coordinator for the Warriors & Ron Adams is a huge help to Jarron
* Ron runs drills and has an impact BUT Jarron is the one in the role
* **Is there Portions of the Training Dedicated to Defense?**: Vast majority of the practice was spent on defensive principals & drills
* Goal is to establish the defense right away (establish the defensive foundation first)
* Offense takes a little longer due to the complexity that comes from chemistry & combos
 

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Summary:

# Thoughts on Players:

* **Thoughts on Eric Paschall**:
* Looks good, worked hard in the summer, great physical shape
* Biggest Challenge: Improve Defensively & how he can make an impact on that end (knows how he did/can do offensively from last year)
* Thinks he's looking good defensively so far

Hopefully Paschall takes that defensive leap
 

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When can the Covid players return?
im not sure

i thought it was 2 weeks in general. idk what the NBA protocol is

assuming 2 weeks, they should have about 1 week left. Myers announced 2 players tested positive about 7 days ago.
 

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James Wiseman and Draymond Green absent at the start of Warriors’ training camp



Two Warriors players tested positive for COVID-19 during the welcome-back process. Twenty players are listed on their training camp roster. One, Klay Thompson, is out for the season with a torn Achilles. Seventeen participated in Monday’s first group practice. Two didn’t — Draymond Green and James Wiseman.

“I will not comment on that any further,” Steve Kerr said Monday after practice. “I’m not allowed to comment on that. You can make your own deductions … I’m just trying to figure out which one of you has put all the pieces together and has figured out what is happening here.”

NBA players who’ve tested positive for COVID-19 enter a 10-to-12-day quarantine, unable to exit that quarantine until they register two straight negative tests separated by 24 hours. Upon return, whenever this issue arises, the Warriors don’t plan to just drop the recovered player right back onto the court. There’s an easing-back-in process.

“I know that there’s some kind of a cardiogram and some kind of a heart monitor testing (that’s needed) because of the nature of the virus,” Kerr said. “There’s a period of time where our two players will be able to be in the gym and watch practice before participating. From what I gather, it’s several days between the time they can be in the gym to the time they can actually practice.”

Citing privacy laws, the Warriors haven’t said which players tested positive. No players have publicly acknowledged a positive test. By company policy, The Athletic refrains from publishing the name of anyone who has tested positive unless it has been publicly revealed or previously approved by the individual, team or league.

But Kerr spelled it out pretty plainly. The Warriors will be without Wiseman and Green in the coming days. Neither is expected to return to team activity until at least next week, after the preseason opener on Saturday against the Nuggets. Two more preseason games quickly follow in Sacramento and the regular season is just around the bend, tipping two weeks from Tuesday.

So this puts the readiness of the Warriors’ two most important frontcourt players in jeopardy, one of them a more significant short-term concern than the other.

Green’s absence shouldn’t be a big setback. He’s been privately telling people he feels fine, and nobody questions his mental understanding of the Warriors’ system or the level he knows he must get to quickly for them to contend in a crowded conference.

“I’m not worried about Draymond,” Kerr said. “He’s got a better feel for what we do than anybody. He’ll be fine once we get rolling with practice.”

Green has questions to answer. He’s coming off the worst season of his professional career and is now on the wrong side of 30, stepping into a four-year, $100 million extension. Where is he at physically? Can he nudge that 3-point percentage back toward the 33 percent range? Does the body hold up over the condensed 72-game grind?

“To be himself,” Steph Curry said of his expectations of Green. “The down year last year, we all had a down year last year, across the board. For him, he’s going to be that defensive presence and monster we expect him to be. I know he’s been working on his game on the offensive end, expanding his range… Again, you talk about a guy who knows what the conversation is around him, who he is as a player, the expectations, I’m sure he’s keeping the receipts.”

The larger question in these early days now surrounds Wiseman. The second overall pick seemed certain to step into a huge immediate role. He was probably the favorite to land the starting center job and, if his development went according to plan, emerge into the 25-minute per night interior force next to Green — crushing lobs and protecting the rim.

He still might. His physical tools aren’t changing. But the most important practices for every rookie are his first few, when the coaches are implementing the system and the veterans are going full speed. It’s when a team begins to form and learn itself. Once the games begin, they come rapidly. Veterans go light. Younger players are usually left to go hard in individual settings. The group work becomes half-speed or moves to the film room.

Wiseman likely won’t participate in these first crucial practices and might miss the entire week, plus the preseason opener, leaving him behind Marquese Chriss and Kevon Looney in the early chase for the starting center spot.

“It’s unfortunate,” Kerr said. “But it’s just the way it goes. Our coaching staff has been showing him tape the last few days. He’s still getting some homework in between now and the time he’ll be able to play again. So it’s not ideal, but nothing is ideal in 2020.”

The Warriors open in Brooklyn on Dec. 22. A game in Milwaukee on Christmas follows. Both are marquee national TV tilts. It’s coming up on the Warriors quickly.

“It is what it is,” Curry said. “Draymond, he’ll be able to plug in extremely quickly. Hopefully, he can catch up physically, in terms of the work that needs to be put in. But James will be in a situation where we’ll just see where he’s at. He’s going to have to learn a lot on the fly. Hopefully, he’s capable of doing that.”
 
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