"A white woman can't give birth to a black child"

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are you just flat out denying the overall beauty standard for black women hasn't been co-opted by mixed and biracial women?

Skip over my question breh..

But to address the Halle Berry thing. Yeah she was on Bella magazine covers and movies etc. but to act like she represented all black women and was the "standard" of beauty is crazy. nikkaz in this thread have been naming black actresseses, entertainers, singers, etc and you keep dismissing them and skipping over them and somehow make excuses like they weren't reppin black women.

You actually said that black people liked Whitney for only her singing and not her beauty :dead:

There have been hundreds of "full" black women that came in all shades that have repped black women for generations.

From Lisa Ray to Lauren hill, Janet, Whitney, Beyoncé, Tyra banks, Clair huxtable, brandy, Monica, I could go on
 
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The hair bit is very ridiculous given the fact that many black women including myself just recently learned proper hair techniques. Black folks can be obsessed with taming hair that should be left alone.

But I've noticed that black people in IR are psychotic and in a less politically correct society would rightly be deemed mentally ill.

I've actually written about this phenomena. Blacks, given the power differential between the races, almost always have a racial Oedipus or Electra complex when engaging in IR.

my wife is black but still :wtf:
 

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Skip over my question breh..

you didn't really ask me a question. you're presenting a strawman, as if i said there were no attractive black women in entertainment

But to address the Halle Berry thing. Yeah she was on Bella magazine covers and movies etc. but to act like she represented all black women and was the "standard" of beauty is crazy. nikkaz in this thread have been naming black actresseses, entertainers, singers, etc and you keep dismissing them and skipping over them and somehow make excuses like they weren't reppin black women.

You actually said that black people liked Whitney for only her singing and not her beauty :dead:

for every woman you guys name, i could present your paula abduls and mariah careys to validate my point. but it bogs down the argument with semantics.

There have been hundreds of "full" black women that came in all shades that have report black women for generations.

From Lisa Ray to Lauren hill, Janet, Whitney, Beyoncé, Tyra banks, Clair huxtable, brandy, Monica, I could go on

black doesn't come in "all shades", this is the type of rhetoric that allowed women like rachel dolezal to infiltrate black circles. now back to my question. are you denying that mixed/biracial have co-opted the standard of black beauty?
 

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are you just flat out denying the overall beauty standard for black women hasn't been co-opted by mixed and biracial women?
Breh the only real example you have of a mixed woman being the standard of beauty is Halle. And I still believe Janet was held in higher regard in the black community than she was
 

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you didn't really ask me a question. you're presenting a strawman, as if i said there were no attractive black women in entertainment



for every woman you guys name, i could present your paula abduls and mariah careys to validate my point. but it bogs down the argument with semantics.



black doesn't come in "all shades", this is the type of rhetoric that allowed women like rachel dolezal to infiltrate black circles. now back to my question. are you denying that mixed/biracial have co-opted the standard of black beauty?

It wasnt a strawman . But let's try it again. We're Janet, Tyra banks, Kenya Moore, Lauren hill black standards of beauty:lupe:
 

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Breh the only real example you have of a mixed woman being the standard of beauty is Halle. And I still believe Janet was held in higher regard in the black community than she was
i presented halle berry because she's most notable example of biracial beauty being presented as black beauty. very few women that you guys named reached the heights and popularity as a halle berry. but i dont have to reach in the past regardless, a large chunk of the women worshipped now are mixed/biracial, or they're black women trying their best to look mixed/biracial.

if you're a black male and you refuse to acknowledge this problem you shouldn't refer to yourself as pro-black.
 

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i presented halle berry because she's most notable example of biracial beauty being presented as black beauty. very few women that you guys named reached the heights and popularity as a halle berry. but i dont have to reach in the past regardless, a large chunk of the women worshipped now are mixed/biracial, or they're black women trying their best to look mixed/biracial.

if you're a black male and you refuse to acknowledge this problem you shouldn't refer to yourself as pro-black.
And I countered with Janet Jackson :ohlawd: who was bigger before during and after Halles pinnacle
 

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Malcolm X mother was "Biracial" (who in here time the word didn't exist)so I guess Malcolm not black neither according to coli logic.
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Malcolm X was not biracial. His mother and his father were black. His mother was mixed.

Hell to be honest with you just about every African American is mixed to some degree.

http://www.eurweb.com/2010/05/latest-genetic-study-says-african-americans-are-22-percent-white/
http://www.genealogyintime.com/News...ck_americans_have_some_european_ancestry.html
 

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For up to 60 percent of the mouse’s genes, the copy from dad was more active than the copy from mom.

You have two copies of every gene, one from each parent. The bolded isn't saying 60 percent of the mouse's genes come from the father. It's saying for up to 60 percent of the mouse's genes, the copy of gene from the father was more likely to be active
 

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It wasnt a strawman . But let's try it again. We're Janet, Tyra banks, Kenya Moore, Lauren hill black standards of beauty:lupe:

- lauren hills beauty was highly underrated, and she was moreso praised for her lyrical and singing abilities
- kenya moore, while extremely beautiful, was never promoted as the standard of beauty. (which always bugged me after watching senseless)
- tyra banks is one of the handful of black women that did set a standard of beauty and was promoted for her beauty.
- janet jackson, imo, wasn't regarded for her beauty as much as her talent. now i could be remembering things wrong, but i recall other women being regarded much higher in the looks department

now back to my question, do you feel that there is an issue with biracial/mixed women setting the black beauty standard.
 
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