Religion/Spirituality A Very Positive Thread About Islam.....

[theworldismine13]

You got part 2? It cut off

Nah it's not up

 

[Blackking]

when those saudi muslims forced those girls to stay inside the burning school because they werent properly covered, the girls were able to keep their honor

Would you guess that most Muslims in the world do things like this? Or what you guess that most Muslims in the world focus on positive actions and charity?

 

[Blackking]

I don't see what the point is, I'm aware of the civil rights movement and the different issues and movements that is exactly why I made my critique and equated black Muslims to black communists and said it's silly to change your Christian name to an Islamic name because an Islamic name is also a slave name

Explain to me what new information is suppose to be in this post?

Figure it out..... but a clue is that these guys actually were trying to improve the condition of black people in America. They weren't all about pointless attacks on other black people and empty solutions like you are.


The original purpose of the Civil Rights movement had been to gain full equality in law and in fact for black Americans. In the mid-1960s, new black leaders began to advocate different goals and ideas. Elijah Muhammad, leader of the Nation of Islam or Black Muslims, urged African Americans not to join whites, but to create their own republic within the United States. Many members of the Nation of Islam changed their names, which had originally come to their families from white slave owners: Cassius Clay became Muhammad Ali, and Malcolm Little began referring to himself as Malcolm X.

Malcolm X criticized King and the other nonviolent leaders. He argued that black people should take what was theirs by right rather than negotiating for it. Rather than fighting for integration, he urged black people to consider separatism. His view attracted many Black Muslims.







The view that we should have our own as opposed to begging for scraps is what attracted certain types of people to join with black Muslims, even if they don't agree with the religion.

 

[theworldismine13]

Figure it out..... but a clue is that these guys actually were trying to improve the condition of black people in America. They weren't all about pointless attacks on other black people and empty solutions like you are.


The original purpose of the Civil Rights movement had been to gain full equality in law and in fact for black Americans. In the mid-1960s, new black leaders began to advocate different goals and ideas. Elijah Muhammad, leader of the Nation of Islam or Black Muslims, urged African Americans not to join whites, but to create their own republic within the United States. Many members of the Nation of Islam changed their names, which had originally come to their families from white slave owners: Cassius Clay became Muhammad Ali, and Malcolm Little began referring to himself as Malcolm X.

Malcolm X criticized King and the other nonviolent leaders. He argued that black people should take what was theirs by right rather than negotiating for it. Rather than fighting for integration, he urged black people to consider separatism. His view attracted many Black Muslims.







The view that we should have our own as opposed to begging for scraps is what attracted certain types of people to join with black Muslims, even if they don't agree with the religion.

but i never questioned their motives and their efforts and i never questioned the history of muslims in civil rights, what i said is that they made a mistake by trying to use islam as a vehicle for black progress and try to represent islam as the opposite of white christianity

 

[Blackking]

true but Islam intensified it. With the religion of Islam and the Quran (book) they now had backing for their hatred and conquest of African peoples. Even when Africans did convert to Islam...it still wasn't good enough for the Islamic purists who didn't like the fact that Africans were mixing their traditional beliefs with Islam. Even today Arabs claim that Black-Africans (the ones that are Muslim) are "weak" Muslims because they are not extremist. In places like Senegal and Mali (some of the first Black Africans to embrace Islam) they are seen as just casual Muslims.

you are lying. The main reason I know that you are lying is because I've been to the places that you've mentioned...

People always say " what do u know ,, I bet u wouldn't go there" Well, I have... and when i went... I wasn't a Muslim at first so.... you can't even say I had a biased lens.

But if we want to know about back then.... here is some info for you to correct.



1) The Arab slave trade originated before Islam and lasted more than a millennium

2) Unlike the trans-Atlantic slave trade to the New World, Arabs supplied African slaves to the Muslim world - Which may be a clue to why MLK, Malcolm X, the black panthers, assata shakur, and other people during the 60s spoke on the slavery that affected their people instead. Obviously, we know about history, but we focus on More direct impacts.

3) The Arab trade of Zanj (Bantu) slaves in East Africa is one of the oldest slave trades, predating the European transatlantic slave trade by 700 years

4) The 'Oriental' or 'Arab' slave trade is sometimes called the 'Islamic' slave trade, but a religious imperative was not the driver of the slavery. Anyone with a Masters degree should know this, smh... or probably a Bachelors. But really anyone with PBS should also know it. So everyone should be aware.

5) Usage of the terms "Islamic trade" or "Islamic world" has been disputed by some Muslims as it treats Africa as outside of Islam, or a negligible portion of the Islamic world. Propagators of Islam in Africa often revealed a cautious attitude towards proselytizing because of its effect in reducing the potential reservoir of slaves (two takeaways from this is.... You can't really separte the histories.... as AFrica and Asia share some history........... and conversions were actually discouraged because that would mean no slaves.

6) ...an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.

—Muhammad

Some Asian cultures both Islamic and non- Islamic did as Europe did- and decided that blacks were inferior to their groups. While religion wasn't the driver behind this..... it's very easy for the Most Ignorant amongst the species to use anything they can to generalize groups and sub groups.


So Basically, my point isn't that that oppression wasn't as bad as all oppression. Point is, there is a reason why most notable black revolutionaries and civil rights people in America do not speak on that as much.

The concept of an Arab identity itself did not exist until modern times. According to Arnold J. Toynbee: "The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue."

The famous 9th-century Muslim author Al-Jahiz, an Afro-Arab and the grandson of a Zanj slave, wrote a book entitled Risalat mufakharat al-Sudan 'ala al-bidan (Treatise on the Superiority of Blacks over Whites), in which he stated that Blacks:

...have conquered the country of the Arabs as far as Mecca and have governed them. We defeated Dhu Nowas (Jewish King of Yemen) and killed all the Himyarite princes, but you, White people, have never conquered our country. Our people, the Zenghs (Negroes) revolted forty times in the Euphrates, driving the inhabitants from their homes and making Oballah a bath of blood.

wow, That nikka was c00ning hard as hell

 

[theworldismine13]

you are lying. The main reason I know that you are lying is because I've been to the places that you've mentioned...

People always say " what do u know ,, I bet u wouldn't go there" Well, I have... and when i went... I wasn't a Muslim at first so.... you can't even say I had a biased lens.
But if we want to know about back then.... here is some info for you to correct.


1) The Arab slave trade originated before Islam and lasted more than a millennium

2) Unlike the trans-Atlantic slave trade to the New World, Arabs supplied African slaves to the Muslim world - Which may be a clue to why MLK, Malcolm X, the black panthers, assata shakur, and other people during the 60s spoke on the slavery that affected their people instead. Obviously, we know about history, but we focus on More direct impacts.

3) The Arab trade of Zanj (Bantu) slaves in East Africa is one of the oldest slave trades, predating the European transatlantic slave trade by 700 years

4) The 'Oriental' or 'Arab' slave trade is sometimes called the 'Islamic' slave trade, but a religious imperative was not the driver of the slavery. Anyone with a Masters degree should know this, smh... or probably a Bachelors. But really anyone with PBS should also know it. So everyone should be aware.

5) Usage of the terms "Islamic trade" or "Islamic world" has been disputed by some Muslims as it treats Africa as outside of Islam, or a negligible portion of the Islamic world. Propagators of Islam in Africa often revealed a cautious attitude towards proselytizing because of its effect in reducing the potential reservoir of slaves (two takeaways from this is.... You can't really separte the histories.... as AFrica and Asia share some history........... and conversions were actually discouraged because that would mean no slaves.

6) ...an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.

—Muhammad

Some Asian cultures both Islamic and non- Islamic did as Europe did- and decided that blacks were inferior to their groups. While religion wasn't the driver behind this..... it's very easy for the Most Ignorant amongst the species to use anything they can to generalize groups and sub groups.


So Basically, my point isn't that that oppression wasn't as bad as all oppression. Point is, there is a reason why most notable black revolutionaries and civil rights people in America do not speak on that as much.

The concept of an Arab identity itself did not exist until modern times. According to Arnold J. Toynbee: "The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue."

The famous 9th-century Muslim author Al-Jahiz, an Afro-Arab and the grandson of a Zanj slave, wrote a book entitled Risalat mufakharat al-Sudan 'ala al-bidan (Treatise on the Superiority of Blacks over Whites), in which he stated that Blacks:

...have conquered the country of the Arabs as far as Mecca and have governed them. We defeated Dhu Nowas (Jewish King of Yemen) and killed all the Himyarite princes, but you, White people, have never conquered our country. Our people, the Zenghs (Negroes) revolted forty times in the Euphrates, driving the inhabitants from their homes and making Oballah a bath of blood.

wow, That nikka was c00ning hard as hell

i dont get it,what the is the significance that arab slave trading preceded islam?

i think the most significant point to understand is that it was the british that ended islamic slavery, that is all you need to know to know how bad it was


and are you saying that this

is a kinder gentler form of slavery

 

[Blackking]

i dont get it,what the is the significance that arab slave trading preceded islam?

i think the most significant point to understand is that it was the british that ended islamic slavery, that is all you need to know to know how bad it was


and are you saying that this


is a kinder gentler form of slavery

This is not what you got out of what I just wrote. You are trolling. Get out the thread if you aren't actually contributing.

 

[theworldismine13]

This is not what you got out of what I just wrote. You are trolling. Get out the thread if you aren't actually contributing.

im contributing a whole lot to this thread, you actually arent, you have posted the same thing over and over and again like some retarded short circuited robot or some kind of brainwashed muslim (same difference)

 

[Blackking]

im contributing a whole lot to this thread, you actually arent, you have posted the same thing over and over and again like some retarded short circuited robot or some kind of brainwashed muslim (same difference)

So ur gonna pretend that you aren't

You should check out the pages... I keep it moving and only go back to a point when someone...


Actually this is a positive thread about Islam. Answer this..........is there a shortage of Anti Islam Threads for you to post in??

Because there are 75 anti islam threads and u chose to troll this one tell me everything I need to know about ur motivation.

 

[the cac mamba]

Would you guess that most Muslims in the world do things like this? Or what you guess that most Muslims in the world focus on positive actions and charity?

i think that most m,uslims focus on positvity

it makes me feel some kind of way when a 'strict islamist state' allows something like this to happen it doesnt seem like a place id want to live, frankly. its things like this that result in such nstrong pushback against the spread of sharia

 

[theworldismine13]

So ur gonna pretend that you aren't

You should check out the pages... I keep it moving and only go back to a point when someone...


Actually this is a positive thread about Islam. Answer this..........is there a shortage of Anti Islam Threads for you to post in??

Because there are 75 anti islam thread and u chose to troll this one tell me everything I need to know about ur motivation.

how the fuk you keep it moving when you have posted the same post multiple times in this thread, that's called spamming and its against the rules

second of all im not trolling im asking simple questions, what is the significance of the fact that arab slavery preceded islam, what are we as black people suppose to make of that?

i know what i make of it, it just makes it even more stupid for black people to embrace an arab religion, but im just wondering why the hell pro muslim posters have tried to make that point?

I'm the God Emperor, my motivation as always is truth, peace, love and unity

 

[Blackking]

when making this thread should've just told the usual suspects they're not welcomed. not even to say anything positive. because they can't.

I would rather not simply say ur not welcome. We know that their nature is to be negative or condescending... However, I've never witness people like them actually do anything for the world or humanity.

I've seen black Muslims in America have prison reform programs that keep brothers from cycling in and out of the prison industrial complex.

The Mosque I occasionally visit has raise like 600K a pop (a day) for random orphanages.. And not just orphanages... but orphanages that train kids in advanced mathematics and give them hands on leadership training with the mission " WHY should the forgot and poorest amongst us not have the chance to be doctors, engineers, or leaders".

I seen woman leaders in the most populous Muslim nations... but in my own country I see madd sexist shyt every time a women even thinks about running for president.

The main thing I see if a bunch of laptop fakkits who don't do shyt, but talk shyt.... while the people they criticize are actually making an attempt to advance the world.

 

[theworldismine13]

I would rather not simply say ur not welcome. We know that their nature is to be negative or condescending... However, I've never witness people like them actually do anything for the world or humanity.

I've seen black Muslims in America have prison reform programs that keep brothers from cycling in and out of the prison industrial complex.

The Mosque I occasionally visit has raise like 600K a pop (a day) for random orphanages.. And not just orphanages... but orphanages that train kids in advanced mathematics and give them hands on leadership training with the mission " WHY should the forgot and poorest amongst us not have the chance to be doctors, engineers, or leaders".

I seen woman leaders in the most populous Muslim nations... but in my own country I see madd sexist shyt every time a women even thinks about running for president.

The main thing I see if a bunch of laptop fakkits who don't do shyt, but talk shyt.... while the people they criticize are actually making an attempt to advance the world.

you're just a crybaby that gets upset when your religion gets exposed to the harsh reality of facts

 

[Blackking]

how the fuk you keep it moving when you have posted the same post multiple times in this thread, that's called spamming and its against the rules

second of all im not trolling im asking simple questions, what is the significance of the fact that arab slavery preceded islam, what are we as black people suppose to make of that?

i know what i make of it, it just makes it even more stupid for black people to embrace an arab religion, but im just wondering why the hell pro muslim posters have tried to make that point?

I'm the God Emperor, my motivation as always is truth, peace, love and unity

If the same question is asked.... then the same answer is relevant.

You are not about unity AT ALL.

And that slavery wasn't driven by religion.... is the "significance". 100% of the historians who study this agree. and you must agree because these historians are from the West and you are in love with the West.

 

[Blackking]

you're just a crybaby that gets upset when your religion gets exposed to the harsh reality of facts

The post u quoted is untrue?

I know ur just having fun. I'm not upset... I know that u are worthless in the end.