A Song of Ice & Fire by George R.R. Martin: Book Discussion Thread
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AnonymityX1000
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This guy is a jerk. He could hire a team of writers to pitch him ideas and just pick the best one if he like the best.Welp, it’s been real.
13 Years Late, George RR Martin Admits He May Never Finish ‘Winds Of Winter’
When asked about the status of Winds of Winter, as he is in every interview, Martin had this to say:www.forbes.com
Diunx
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Nikka this is GRRM not fukking Drake.
AnonymityX1000
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He let a a TV show decide how the story ended with Bran being on the Irone Throne at the end.
The integrity angle is dead.
Diunx
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Bran most likely does end up in the Iron Throne, but possessed by Blood Raven.He let a a TV show decide how the story ended with Bran being on the Irone Throne at the end.
The integrity angle is dead.
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He won't finish the last two
There is no contingency
There is no contingency
This was the outcome grrm gave them. Y'all need to let certain narratives goHe let a a TV show decide how the story ended with Bran being on the Irone Throne at the end.
The integrity angle is dead.
And Bran being on the throne is not outlandish, nor is it a bad ending
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AnonymityX1000
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I thought if he was half a tree now. lol
Even so, he should change the ending based on how poorly the show's ending was received.
Diunx
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I honestly think thats the reason for the delay, I can't even imagine the amount of shyt he has been changing, discarding, beinging back, changing again.
Piff Perkins
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Honestly when I saw that he couldn't even finish or sound confident after the show's finale butchered his characters and potentially killed the series? That's when I felt like ok it might be over. I still think TWOW comes out but I just can't imagine him finishing the series. And I think he's too scared to admit he can't do it in seven books.
You can't be stuck at 60-75% for a decade, which is what's happened here...unless you have too much material with no end in sight. I think he's got way too many chapters and once again isn't listening to his editor. The pacing of AFFC/ADWD is extremely slow and plodding compared to the first three books because he refuses to skip time. He uses travel chapters to build lore, which is fine. But you cannot do that in half your POV chapters. For instance if you've read the TWOW sample chapters...Arianne has two chapters. In the first one we learn she's traveling to meet "Aegon" and Connington. There's a boat ride, a travel through a forest, some caves, etc....and by the end of the second chapter she still hasn't met either person. This could have been one chapter that ends with her arriving in her location and preparing to meet them. It's just a waste of pages....now imagine that pacing across an entire book, with all the POV characters he has. It's impossible to do that and reach a climax/conclusion within 900 pages.
You can't be stuck at 60-75% for a decade, which is what's happened here...unless you have too much material with no end in sight. I think he's got way too many chapters and once again isn't listening to his editor. The pacing of AFFC/ADWD is extremely slow and plodding compared to the first three books because he refuses to skip time. He uses travel chapters to build lore, which is fine. But you cannot do that in half your POV chapters. For instance if you've read the TWOW sample chapters...Arianne has two chapters. In the first one we learn she's traveling to meet "Aegon" and Connington. There's a boat ride, a travel through a forest, some caves, etc....and by the end of the second chapter she still hasn't met either person. This could have been one chapter that ends with her arriving in her location and preparing to meet them. It's just a waste of pages....now imagine that pacing across an entire book, with all the POV characters he has. It's impossible to do that and reach a climax/conclusion within 900 pages.