A Navy Seal Chief's War Crimes in Iraq

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Humanizing the enemy, makes you less efficient.
During operation Iraqi freedom our Senior Chief reiterated over and over that both, the rules and the idea of a war crime are bullshyt.
:manny:I agree.


That said, the prosecution fudged this something serious.
 

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I think we need to rescind his HOF badge. :scust:
:russ:This is where im suppose to hit you with something about you having never seen combat.
We really should avoid military conflict at all cost...


But like I said the prosecution punted...
This man is obviously sick.
 

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:russ:This is where im suppose to hit you with something about you having never seen combat.
We really should avoid military conflict at all cost...


But like I said the prosecution punted...
This man is obviously sick.
Personally, I don't believe in "everyday morality" and "war morality". Human morality is human morality. Charging people for war crimes is only a tiny concession to that fact.

I'll quote again what I said earlier in the threat (which you dapped in fact, as you do.)

As a complete coincidence, at work I picked up a book off the bookshelf that I hadn't seen before, and it was talking about military compartmentalization. How soldiers are explicitly and effectively taught to disregard everything they believe about morality in the outside world and replace it with totally different moral standards for soldiers.

The effects are damaging in three ways. First, they're forced to disregard their normal moral impulses, including all their natural emotions, and replace it with an impassionate logical script that ignores all the normal emotional and spiritual clues that usually tell you when you're doing something fukked up. Second, that sort of moral compartimentalization is an unhealthy way to live and screws up your emotional life. And third, pure compartimentalization isn't ever possible, so the degraded standards of "this is what is okay in war" inevitably leak out into the rest of society too.

Obviously, many many soldiers don't commit war crimes and this guy was especially sociopathic. But like Duncan Hunter did when he said the quiet part loud, it's a type of sociopathy that is accentuated by how the military treats morality.

I actually agree with your Senior Chief that the rules of war are bullshyt. But in the opposite direction. The rules for war should be the same as the rules for the rest of life. In trying to compartmentalize war, we're in fact fukking up thousands of minds that can't compartimentalize fully like that without negative consequences, as well as instilling a militaristic creep into the rest of society.

I know many people won't agree with me. But they'll at LEAST agree to some rules of engagement and to a loose definition of war crimes. I'll take that for now while insisting that human reality has to move a lot further.
 

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