"A few months ago, my career was in the toilet bowl" - Jon Moxley

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You honestly sound like you’re looking at this from a poor man’s perspective.

“Having money not everything, Not having it is.”

He has the money, Now he wants the FREEDOM to be able to express himself and wrestle how he wants to. And he also isn’t on the road wrestling 300 days a year.

Not even trying to shyt on the breh who said it originally, but I gotta cosign you on this one based off personal experience.

I had a job once that afforded me more money than I needed at the time to live my life happily and save up. But I was miserable as fukk doing it. Since then, I've held positions that haven't paid me as well, but I'm much happier doing it, and I have to work less hours to make my money.

Everybody eventually gets to a point where they realize that time is your true inventory, and happiness is the only real barometer of success.
 

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Yea. A few months ago you were making a couple million dollars annually in WWE. That’s such a “toilet bowl”. We get it, you didn’t like creative, but get some damn perspective.
you don't know how much AEW is paying him.

Jericho has said he's making more money on his AEW deal than he ever did in WWE.
 

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if he was allowed to wrassle like this as a continuation of his czw Indy gimmick. Wwe could have elevated hordes of their garbage by just listening.

nikkaz talking but real talk.

there should be a rant on moxley's match with tai chi.
I was like oh this match is super rant worthy because the booking should be obvious given the characters.
especially considering tai chi is typically this pedigreed amateur grappler. That actually makes good on the bytchmass gimmick most fail at. Yet tai chi is looked at as kinda bytchmade as a staple. So when that match is booked. I am like the only way this does not look like a garbage as squash.
simply is if tai chi. Goes full heel like he will out of nowhere and revert back to his background and get it in. So jf course tai chi starts from the bytchmade heel needs to look like a badass but get beat regardless booking. Yet moxley actually with tai chi gives tai chi more convincability than atypically we have ever seen. We have seen tai chi boss up. Yet in this match moxley was so good and a great back and forth storyteller getting the duke.
tai chi pretty much bolstered his perception in loss and moxley was heinously counter squash violent.
yet and still the night and day difference of what moxley did. for what is basically a wwe kind of character as opposition is lost by people who do not get why moxley was so vocal. If you watched that match. I kinda find it hard for you to naysay Moxley and you call yourself a smart.



I ain't even big on moxley but he is a talent. That it is obvious after that just one match of several in njpw. was put in the wrong pen in the wwe. Plus the wwe has no idea wtf they have and have no barometer for quality as an actual org.

Mosley made me watch juice Robinson and Robinson is complete trash. Instant channel changer for me off top. Yet i watched it cause he carried that off brand wanna be retro outta touch ass clown.







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Just saying there are countless workers in the indies who would kill for the chance to make REAL money in WWE.
We're flawed, because we want so much more. We're ruined, because we get these things, and wish for what we had." -Don Draper:smugdraper:

And I'm sure there are people in the WWE that used to be those guys in the indies that now wish they could go back and have fun doing their job.
 

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Not even trying to shyt on the breh who said it originally, but I gotta cosign you on this one based off personal experience.

I had a job once that afforded me more money than I needed at the time to live my life happily and save up. But I was miserable as fukk doing it. Since then, I've held positions that haven't paid me as well, but I'm much happier doing it, and I have to work less hours to make my money.

Everybody eventually gets to a point where they realize that time is your true inventory, and happiness is the only real barometer of success.
That's the biggest thing about the whole "shut up you're a millionaire" narrative here. Mox has continually said he appreciated the WWE and Vince but just disagreed with how they did things with him and the PROCESS wasn't fun. Dude comes off appreciative as fukk on the Jericho podcast but was disatisfied and chose fun over money. That's not a bad thing.

I'm sure you appreciated your high paying job but you didn't love it and moved on. That's just normal to me.
 

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Not even trying to shyt on the breh who said it originally, but I gotta cosign you on this one based off personal experience.

I had a job once that afforded me more money than I needed at the time to live my life happily and save up. But I was miserable as fukk doing it. Since then, I've held positions that haven't paid me as well, but I'm much happier doing it, and I have to work less hours to make my money.

Everybody eventually gets to a point where they realize that time is your true inventory, and happiness is the only real barometer of success.
Been there as well, So I definitely get what you mean. Some shyt you just REALLY can’t put a price on.

People complain about managers/bosses all the time, and it is of the utmost importance imo that having a great manager can make or break a job. Imagine working for Vince McMahon and having to deal with that foolishness for 5-6 years straight :what:
 

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That's the biggest thing about the whole "shut up you're a millionaire" narrative here. Mox has continually said he appreciated the WWE and Vince but just disagreed with how they did things with him and the PROCESS wasn't fun. Dude comes off appreciative as fukk on the Jericho podcast but was disatisfied and chose fun over money. That's not a bad thing.

I'm sure you appreciated your high paying job but you didn't love it and moved on. That's just normal to me.

That's another part of it that I think some people aren't quite on the same page as him on.

When the Jericho podcast came out, people said he was shytting on the WWE, but I had the same takeaway as you: he eas happy to have said he worked there, and appreciates and likely respects the PEOPLE there, but just took issue with the PROCESS.

It really just sounded like a recorded version of the same talk most people would probably have with their friends at happy hour or something right after they leave a job that had burned/stressed them out.

After all, it's completely possible (and sadly, normal) to have a job that you're truly thankful for, but can't stand. That's like 90% of the American workforce, if we're being real. :yeshrug:

Been there as well, So I definitely get what you mean. Some shyt you just REALLY can’t put a price on.

People complain about managers/bosses all the time, and it is of the utmost importance imo that having a great manager can make or break a job. Imagine working for Vince McMahon and having to deal with that foolishness for 5-6 years straight :what:

Pure facts :wow:

I've seen people clearly have outgrown a position, but stuck in it anyway because they had real respect for their management, and enjoyed working with them. And shyt, good management will make sure your loyalty is ultimately rewarded anyway.

I couldn't imagine working on a normal basis with someone as petty, pigheaded, and prone to mood swings as Vince appears to be.
 

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if he was allowed to wrassle like this as a continuation of his czw Indy gimmick. Wwe could have elevated hordes of their garbage by just listening.

nikkaz talking but real talk.

there should be a rant on moxley's match with tai chi.
I was like oh this match is super rant worthy because the booking should be obvious given the characters.
especially considering tai chi is typically this pedigreed amateur grappler. That actually makes good on the bytchmass gimmick most fail at. Yet tai chi is looked at as kinda bytchmade as a staple. So when that match is booked. I am like the only way this does not look like a garbage as squash.
simply is if tai chi. Goes full heel like he will out of nowhere and revert back to his background and get it in. So jf course tai chi starts from the bytchmade heel needs to look like a badass but get beat regardless booking. Yet moxley actually with tai chi gives tai chi more convincability than atypically we have ever seen. We have seen tai chi boss up. Yet in this match moxley was so good and a great back and forth storyteller getting the duke.
tai chi pretty much bolstered his perception in loss and moxley was heinously counter squash violent.
yet and still the night and day difference of what moxley did. for what is basically a wwe kind of character as opposition is lost by people who do not get why moxley was so vocal. If you watched that match. I kinda find it hard for you to naysay Moxley and you call yourself a smart.



I ain't even big on moxley but he is a talent. That it is obvious after that just one match of several in njpw. was put in the wrong pen in the wwe. Plus the wwe has no idea wtf they have and have no barometer for quality as an actual org.

Mosley made me watch juice Robinson and Robinson is complete trash. Instant channel changer for me off top. Yet i watched it cause he carried that off brand wanna be retro outta touch ass clown.







art barr

This is the most coherent Art Barr post I've ever read.. :dwillhuh:

are you breaking kayfabe?
 

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Jonathon Good/ Jon Moxley / Dean Ambrose is literally one of those guys that purely loves wrestling and nothing else. He's literally said he would be a bum just to wrestle the way he wants. The guy has been a bum his whole life so of course money doesn't mean anything to him at all. This is the type of person that will wrestle until he literally dies.

He's literally the new Terry Funk

Kill yourself cause you're a die hard Mark neckbeard for peanuts brehs

:francis:
If he dies doing what he loves let him live.
 
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