A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread

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[Derek Lee]

 

[Ironman]

He could've just not did anything then because

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[storyteller]

What was the point of that trade?

Gotta assume we weren't planning on bringing Doug back. Getting Mudiay gives us another year of a rookie salary for a 21 year old with upside. The logjam is worrisome because we KNOW this staff mishandled one so bad that we had to give away a cheap, rotation piece that fit our timeline. But in a vaccuum...it's a savvy move to turn nothing into a low-value asset that could become more valuable.

 

[Ironman]

 

[storyteller]

He could've just not did anything then because

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It's a swap thankfully. Our clippers second rounder for their Portland second rounder.

 

[Ironman]

Gotta assume we weren't planning on bringing Doug back. Getting Mudiay gives us another year of a rookie salary for a 21 year old with upside. The logjam is worrisome because we KNOW this staff mishandled one so bad that we had to give away a cheap, rotation piece that fit our timeline. But in a vaccuum...it's a savvy move to turn nothing into a low-value asset that could become more valuable.

There better be a point we bush the entire coaching and development staffs

 

[seemorecizzy]

I'm not too mad at this.

McDermott was not staying in NY.

Mudiay is only 21 years old and although he's been poor, he has upside. Hopefully, Lee is traded and Frank gets minutes at the two.

I remember brehs saying you can't go wrong stacking young potential, especially in a rebuild era. I am willing to hold my fear about Frank's development until we see where we are at the end of the year.

Jack needs to get less than 5 minutes a game moving forward. Trey Burke needs to start and Frank needs to be the first PG or SG off the bench (assuming Lee is also traded.)

this is a dumb move if the team is serious about frank

its only february, and frank has played behind sessions, burke, jack, baker and now mudiay at the point guard position

what about that tells you they have any faith in him what so ever? lol
they destroying his confidence

we have SOOOOOOOO many other weaknesses
so many
but for some reason we keep adding more point guards

if you were frank, what the hell would you think?

 

[Derek Lee]

 

[Ironman]

Why did I choose to be a Knicks fan? It couldn't have been the Spurs?

 

[nyknick]

Mudiay is a raw player given to a staff that hasn't shown will to play or any actual development of their current raw players. I still really like Mudiay's potential but two aspects of his development so far have disappointed me, still questionable finisher and never realized his defensive potential. If the Knicks had a staff that could build this kid up; he and Frank would be a really intriguing combo. But I don't trust them to develop anybody right now so it's a wait for whoever we bring in to replace Hornacek proposition.

Honestly, we should spend this last half hour trying to eat a salary and pick up another pick but they're harder to come by this year.

Kurt Rambis is about to unlock that potential

 

[DPresidential]

Lee should've been thrown in too then so we can try and get a pick. Also, I have no faith in our staff so all our youthful potential won't be reached

See, here in lies the problem.

If we are going to accept certain things as set in stone, shyt looks real funny regarding even watching this team at all.

• Knicks should rebuild
• Knicks should acquire picks and young talent
• Knicks are untrustworthy with respect to developing talent.
• Knicks give no indication that they will change there development system/staff.

If you really accept those above bullet points then... nothing we do should ever be a positive.

How do you rectify wanting picks/youth if you are also concrete in your belief that we can't develop anyone?

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Another move with no direction

 

[Ironman]

See, here in lies the problem.

If we are going to accept certain things as set in stone, shyt looks real funny regarding even watching this team at all.

• Knicks should rebuild
• Knicks should acquire picks and young talent
• Knicks are untrustworthy with respect to developing talent.
• Knicks give no indication that they will change there development system/staff.

If you really accept those above bullet points then... nothing we do should ever be a positive.

How do you rectify wanting picks/youth if you are also concrete in your belief that we can't develop anyone?

Tim looks like when he first got hereKP added to his game a bit but everyone else plays the same. We don't even get our young guys minutes despite that being the supposed focus in the off-season Kurt. Rambis. Is. Still. Here.Frank was our first pick and pg choice but, you'd think we chose him in the third round if you didn't know about his draft position before with how little he plays.

 

[storyteller]

See, here in lies the problem.

If we are going to accept certain things as set in stone, shyt looks real funny regarding even watching this team at all.

• Knicks should rebuild
• Knicks should acquire picks and young talent
• Knicks are untrustworthy with respect to developing talent.
• Knicks give no indication that they will change there development system/staff.

If you really accept those above bullet points then... nothing we do should ever be a positive.

How do you rectify wanting picks/youth if you are also concrete in your belief that we can't develop anyone?

A more committed move toward youth development would have placated me but Courtney Lee and KOQ are still on the roster and we jumpstarted our youth movement by trading a pair of guys who technically fit the category of "youth" themselves. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate this. Doug and Willy for Mudiay and 2 second rounders isn't a bad deal. But it's pretty astounding how half in and half out this organization continues to be about a true committed rebuild.