A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread

[ogc163]

Lee and KOQ still seem like the ones most easily moved for value.
At this point I'm talking to Kanter about his plans with his option year and going from there. If he's leaning toward opting out, he's on the block too. If he's opting in, wait until he's an expiring to revisit the conversation.
Guys who I don't think will be easy to move would but can do without are Baker, Lance and Noah.

My preference is to go fully in the tank. I'd love Frank, Dotson, THJ, KP, Willy to be our post-deadline starters. That gets our foot in the door of a top five pick, gives reps to all the young guys to show whether we should focus development on them or not and means that we've dropped some long term salary for future flexibility. A 2018-2019 opening day line-up of Frank, THJ, (Signee), Bagley, KP or Frank, Doncic, THJ, KP, Willy would leave us with long term franchise pieces and incoming cap space to chase compliments in the offseason before we supermax KP.

This all assumes the Knicks don't go on a run and put the post season into a more locked in spot rather than a "we just might" position. They have one last chance to run a nice streak right now before the schedule turns and becomes a lot tougher heading toward the new year.

Yeah that post trade deadline you posted would be ideal, I really don't want Kanter here long term. I didn't want him here in the first place but his value on the market wasn't high anyway.

 

[I.V.]

Kanter is playing well, no reason to complain about Hernongomez not getting enough minutes. If they want to free him up some time, they can try to trade O'Quinn.

When people were talking about the Knicks core, and saying Hernongomez was a future starter - I tried to slow their role, because he's not a bankable talent. He's young, he can't jump or play fast, and he doesn't defend - it's not a fit for the league right now. That doesn't mean they CAN'T use him, or he CAN'T be useful - it's just going to be tough if you have similarly styled player out-playing him AND making more money than him.

The knicks have played well early, but the fact remains: This team is still not talented enough. Which is why they need another high lottery pick this offseason.

 

[Wargames]

Kanter is playing well, no reason to complain about Hernongomez not getting enough minutes. If they want to free him up some time, they can try to trade O'Quinn.

When people were talking about the Knicks core, and saying Hernongomez was a future starter - I tried to slow their role, because he's not a bankable talent. He's young, he can't jump or play fast, and he doesn't defend - it's not a fit for the league right now. That doesn't mean they CAN'T use him, or he CAN'T be useful - it's just going to be tough if you have similarly styled player out-playing him AND making more money than him.

The knicks have played well early, but the fact remains: This team is still not talented enough. Which is why they need another high lottery pick this offseason.

Also want to piggyback on this and say a lot of that early success was due to KP going into Gawd Mode and good coaching. In my eyes a sign of good coaching is roleplayers stepping up at home games and defense. Defense has been better this year than over a decade. Also if they were reliable on the road, roleplayers wouldn't be considered roleplayers. However, Hornecek had them overproducing, and coming back from halftime motivated.

The issue isn't coaching its talent. While I like Fizdale based on his personality. We need to be bad for a good pick and (I never thought I would say this.....) Continue to win trades if the Knicks are going to become a legit good team.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Also want to piggyback on this and say a lot of that early success was due to KP going into Gawd Mode and good coaching. In my eyes a sign of good coaching is roleplayers stepping up at home games and defense. Defense has been better this year than over a decade. Also if they were reliable on the road, roleplayers wouldn't be considered roleplayers. However, Hornecek had them overproducing, and coming back from halftime motivated.

The issue isn't coaching its talent. While I like Fizdale based on his personality. We need to be bad for a good pick and (I never thought I would say this.....) Continue to win trades if the Knicks are going to become a legit good team.

Defense has been better!?

Breh they allowing the most 3s in the league if I’m not mistaken

 

[seemorecizzy]

Defense has been better!?

Breh they allowing the most 3s in the league if I’m not mistaken

people be acitng like this team is way better without melo lol
we have the same amount of wins we had last year at this point
we still cant defend the three
we still cant win on the road
KP IS Slowly down coming into deccember and plays iso ball a lot with no criticism
its the same shyt

we just didnt expect any wins, so theyve been a more entertaining team to watch so far

 

[RickyGQ]

The more i watch Bagley, the more i want to tank.

 

[DoubleClutch]

The more i watch Bagley, the more i want to tank.

How would Bagley fit with KP and Kanter though?

I think the bulls are lock for Bagley

 

[RickyGQ]

How would Bagley fit with KP and Kanter though?

I think the bulls are lock for Bagley

Move KP to the 5 and Bagley at the 4. Kanter hopefully is gone. If not, a scoring big off the bench.

 

[Derek Lee]

fukk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ironman]

fukk!!!

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Oof that's a bad sprain.

 

[jadden]

Not KP

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

fukk no please god

 

[Shogun]

Well, we don't have to debate tanking anymore.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

That replay on that Porzingis injury