90 Days: NO Porn or Fap Challenge

[Big Jo]

more like day too brah. once you lose any seminal fluid you start over. the key of this program is for your body to start to metabolize the testosterone from excessive buildup. a relapse is a relapse.

the same scientist who founded yourbrainonporn.com (gary wilson) adamantly claims there is no link between abstinence and testosterone levels.

he's been quoted as saying: "There's absolutely no evidence that ejaculation depletes testosterone. In fact, all human and animal studies point to ejaculation frequency or abstinence having no long term effect."

tons of info and links here: Any connection between orgasm, abstinence, and testosterone levels? | Your Brain On Porn

and if ejaculation affected the body so negatively, why have sex at all? how come masturbation is evil and sex is encouraged?? and what about wet dreams?

long story short i don't necessarily buy all of the abstinence/ no fap claims. i think it is largely a placebo affect. a good placebo effect, but one nonetheless. and any benefits citing testosterone levels appear to be bunk.

however; the porn addiction/ brain chemistry stuff is definitely, definitely valid in my opinion.

 

[Piff Tannen]

I wack off everyday i aint gon b able to go a month or nothin

 

[Sunalmighty]

the same scientist who founded yourbrainonporn.com (gary wilson) adamantly claims there is no link between abstinence and testosterone levels.

he's been quoted as saying: "There's absolutely no evidence that ejaculation depletes testosterone. In fact, all human and animal studies point to ejaculation frequency or abstinence having no long term effect."

tons of info and links here: Any connection between orgasm, abstinence, and testosterone levels? | Your Brain On Porn

and if ejaculation affected the body so negatively, why have sex at all? how come masturbation is evil and sex is encouraged?? and what about wet dreams?

long story short i don't necessarily buy all of the abstinence/ no fap claims. i think it is largely a placebo affect. a good placebo effect, but one nonetheless. and any benefits citing testosterone levels appear to be bunk.

however; the porn addiction/ brain chemistry stuff is definitely, definitely valid in my opinion.

To hell with what that scientist talking about lol. Niccas reject the bible, but when a scientist starts talking the health of your Johnson, they believe all that is written. Personal testimony trumps study. Moral of the thread, LEAVE your dikk ALONE

 

[Big Jo]

do you think any of these rich and famous people like derek jeter jack them selves off

yea, but in fairness... any time derek jeter has an itch, there are dozens of dime victoria secret models that would scratch it. if i was derek jeter i wouldn't need to jerk off either.

not masturbating isn't the reason for derek jeter's success, but success is the reason derek jeter doesn't masturbate.

 

[jaylav_]

Yeah I didnt last 2 weeks

 

[Big Jo]

and hell, eminem, who is rich and famous as fukk, admits to jerking off. chris rock and other stand up comedians talk about it too. david duchovny even came out as a porn addict a few years ago.

i'm not saying it's a good thing to do. but the reality is a shytload of people, even celebrities, do it.

 

[Silkk]

I may have an addiction problem

 

[MenacingMonk]

and hell, even eminem, who is rich and famous as fukk, admits to jerking off. chris rock and other stand up comedians talk about it too. david duchovny came out as a porn addict a few years ago.

i'm not saying it's a good thing to do. but the reality is a shytload of people, even celebrities, do it.

This thread went off in different roads. First it was all about not busting, then people came in and said no porn and masturbation. Then people added no fantasy and masturbation.

Now it's about people saying how porn has an effect on the brain and real sex. I can cosign this because I had a bad experience. I was into a fetish that when I tried to have sex I couldn't maintain a strong erection due to my brain being fukked at what I was into. That's what dudes are onto now.

I've been fukking up as of late due to not actually getting poon.

I actually decided recently to take a strong stand. I'm trying to step my self-discipline up with some strong pep talks in my head several times a day. I never did that before so I hope the more I do it the more stronger I become to not bust a nut to porn.

Everyone's different dude.

 

[Big Jo]

Now it's about people saying how porn has an effect on the brain and real sex. I can cosign this because I had a bad experience. I was into a fetish that when I tried to have sex I couldn't maintain a strong erection due to my brain being fukked at what I was into. That's what dudes are onto now.

I've been fukking up as of late due to not actually getting poon.

I actually decided recently to take a strong stand. I'm trying to step my self-discipline up with some strong pep talks in my head several times a day. I never did that before so I hope the more I do it the more stronger I become to not bust a nut to porn.

Everyone's different dude.

just to clarify, i agree with this 100%. i'm abstaining from porn as well

i was playing devil's advocate more than anything, i guess.

 

[jjj123]

the same scientist who founded yourbrainonporn.com (gary wilson) adamantly claims there is no link between abstinence and testosterone levels.

he's been quoted as saying: "There's absolutely no evidence that ejaculation depletes testosterone. In fact, all human and animal studies point to ejaculation frequency or abstinence having no long term effect."

tons of info and links here: Any connection between orgasm, abstinence, and testosterone levels? | Your Brain On Porn

and if ejaculation affected the body so negatively, why have sex at all? how come masturbation is evil and sex is encouraged?? and what about wet dreams?

long story short i don't necessarily buy all of the abstinence/ no fap claims. i think it is largely a placebo affect. a good placebo effect, but one nonetheless. and any benefits citing testosterone levels appear to be bunk.

however; the porn addiction/ brain chemistry stuff is definitely, definitely valid in my opinion.

that science can kiss my ass, cause i feel the effects and multiple testimonies only verify my personal experience.

real sex, the testosterone is replenished through the vaginal juices if raw. condom no, but you dont feel as i would say as "off" like with masturbation

masturbation fvcks with your mental state (porn or no porn), its not natural. when i used to bust nuts through masturbation i felt depleted and worse than before. when there is real male/female interaction going on i dont experience this AT ALL (condom a little bit).

wet dreams are not as bad as maturbation but are no good either, it means you lack control of the mind through your lusts and desires.

you are very wrong my friend, do you have experience in this? no ejaculation or porn for months? there is no placebo brah, sh*t is real. females sense the buildup in you, deeper stares pupils highly dilated, more flirtations, more respect from other men, pheromones get churning esp when you sweat. increased energy, better vision, can see clearly in the dark, heightened senses, more motivation, and transmuting the sexual energy into creative energy.

you can listen to that crap if you want to but until you have lived the effects you wont understand. what these people are saying is happening to them is real cause it has and is happening to me. when i first started and hit the 45 day mark i walked into my kitchen pitch black, and i could easily see the outlining of everything in the kitchen. i was way more alpha, calling shots, taking lead, people where FEELING the kid, creativity went through the roof, stronger aura projection, the "child like" effects started kicking in (spiritual depth/purification) and you call all that a placebo effect? gtfoh

i can tell you have no expeience in this go somewhere with your nonsense, i wont stand for it

stay strong brahs, dont let this fool and his propaganda sway you. keep is natual keep it real, and get rewarded, truuuuuuust the kid.

remember, if not being abstinent (great for a mental reset), real interactions only, handjobs, bjs, raw doggin, or condom.

youll be feeling like

 

[Theabbot]

I just wish I had cut porn out a long time ago. 20 years in and my neural connections are all fukked up. Workin thru it tho. One day at a time.

 

[Big Jo]

that science can kiss my ass, cause i feel the effects and multiple testimonies only verify my personal experience.

real sex, the testosterone is replenished through the vaginal juices if raw. condom no, but you dont feel as i would say as "off" like with masturbation

masturbation fvcks with your mental state (porn or no porn), its not natural. when i used to bust nuts through masturbation i felt depleted and worse than before. when there is real male/female interaction going on i dont experience this AT ALL (condom a little bit).

wet dreams are not as bad as maturbation but are no good either, it means you lack control of the mind through your lusts and desires.

you are very wrong my friend, do you have experience in this? no ejaculation or porn for months? there is no placebo brah, sh*t is real. females sense the buildup in you, deeper stares pupils highly dilated, more flirtations, more respect from other men, pheromones get churning esp when you sweat. increased energy, better vision, can see clearly in the dark, heightened senses, more motivation, and transmuting the sexual energy into creative energy.

you can listen to that crap if you want to but until you have lived the effects you wont understand. what these people are saying is happening to them is real cause it has and is happening to me. when i first started and hit the 45 day mark i walked into my kitchen pitch black, and i could easily see the outlining of everything in the kitchen. i was way more alpha, calling shots, taking lead, people where FEELING the kid, creativity went through the roof, stronger aura projection, the "child like" effects started kicking in (spiritual depth/purification) and you call all that a placebo effect? gtfoh

i can tell you have no expeience in this go somewhere with your nonsense, i wont stand for it

stay strong brahs, dont let this fool and his propaganda sway you. keep is natual keep it real, and get rewarded, truuuuuuust the kid.

remember, if not being abstinent (great for a mental reset), real interactions only, handjobs, bjs, raw doggin, or condom.

youll be feeling like

propaganda? what the hell are you talking about?

it's great if people stop masturbating... all I said there's no link between testosterone and abstinence... you know T levels can be measured right? so whatever magical juice flows around your body and makes you superman when you stop masturbating, stop calling it testosterone because that's not it

but again, no propaganda here. I was just clearing up a common misconception.

and to answer your question, I've spent a ton of time away from porn, and some (albeit not enough) away from masturbation. as far as testimonials, believe me, I've read hundreds. I also know a couple people personally who have abstained from masturbation for 60+ days.

the MAJORITY of folks experience positive results. some highly positive, like yours. I wasn't denying that. but there are also folks who experience extended "flatlines", high levels of anxiety, depression, lethargy, etc.

believe me, I didn't just pop into this thread and blindly copy and paste some shyt i found. I've spent a TON of time looking into the affects of porn and masturbation, to the point it's also become an obsession for me.

 

[jjj123]

propaganda? what the hell are you talking about?

it's great if people stop masturbating... all I said there's no link between testosterone and abstinence... you know T levels can be measured right? so whatever magical juice flows around your body and makes you superman when you stop masturbating, stop calling it testosterone because that's not it

but again, no propaganda here. I was just clearing up a common misconception.

and to answer your question, I've spent a ton of time away from porn, and some (albeit not enough) away from masturbation. as far as testimonials, believe me, I've read hundreds. I also know a couple people personally who have abstained from masturbation for 60+ days.

the MAJORITY of folks experience positive results. some highly positive, like yours. I wasn't denying that. but there are also folks who experience extended "flatlines", high levels of anxiety, depression, lethargy, etc.

believe me, I didn't just pop into this thread and blindly copy and paste some shyt i found. I've spent a TON of time looking into the affects of porn and masturbation, to the point it's also become an obsession for me.

ok i understand but the people who are experiencing the negative effects are not taking great care of themselves health and body wise, the test will taper off at some point so a muscle program is essential.

glad were on the same page

shoot for gold brahs!!!

 

[Big Jo]

ok i understand but the people who are experiencing the negative effects are not taking great care of themselves health and body wise, the test will taper off at some point so a muscle program is essential.

glad were on the same page

shoot for gold brahs!!!

i gotta be honest, your posts are making me consider going on an abstinence run. but at the same time, it scares the shyt out of me.

either way, you're motivating others to do a very positive thing, and I tip my hat to you

 

[jjj123]

it pays brahs, couple of weeks no foolish nonsense and back to how i used to do (no porn/masturbation), met a bish tonite at like 2am (did not know her btw) and i just got through piledriving some good pussi, had the bish calling me daddy and shyt lol . wanted a facial after i had alrdy nutted and had her orgasm about maybe 25 times (srs i got a big peen, i was edging her cervix [enter the pleasure/pain field lol bishes love the contrast]), couldnt execute because porn/masturbation still has a grip on my brain still (i can nut time after time on porn) .

my coolness, alpha relaxed clint eastwood swag had the bish suckin the dikk in 10 mins tops of gaming her and then takin the pussi when that wasnt even my plan, i made it happen tho . you will find that by going on with this that you will have faster and stronger sexual escalation with women and wont be talking about the weather or other dumb shyt, you will get to the point on instinct and let them know you want that warm tunnel or them sugarwalls.

bish had pupils so diilated she might as well of been on acid, she was FEELIN the kid; aura projection, alpha mind state, and my calmness had her wet as FVCK son, she was creamin my peen like craaaaaazzzzzzyyyyy.

but my abstinence and no nonsense approach paid off

almost 3 weeks of abstinence and the power of it affected a bish in no time, and i didnt even let off my flare (think goku, going super saiyan, men should master this level of sexual projection, im learning it through guess what, doing things naturally!)

go for gold brahs, bishes will see the shine (hard work, alpha control, testosterone, pheromones, aura projection etc) through the mine, (you!) and they will want to experience it. but you gotta get the gold brahs, leave the porn/masturbation for the beta simps.

we all can be winning, dont cut yourself short