9/28 PBC on FOX PPV: Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter (WBC/IBF Welterweight Title unification)

[Rain]

He hurt Porter way more than Thurman and anyone else that’s fought Porter. Porter is tough as shyt. I underestimated his fighting spirit. Spence isn’t invincible. Neither is Crawford or any other fighter, though.

I think what's becoming clear here with this class of welterweights is that none of these guys are head and shoulders above any of the other ones right now, ala Floyd. Which is fine. Just dudes need to stop talking about fighter y is gonna destroy fighter x. These guys may start trading losses with each other and there's nothing wrong with that if it makes for some good rematches/trilogies.

 

[Apollo Creed]

a Crawford - Porter fight looks much different than Spence. take Broner for instance....its hard to inflict damage on him because of his style and his defense. He doesnt move his hands tho and thats why its easy for most guys to beat him on points. Broner couldve beaten Porter but didnt move his hands enough and he put him on his ass worse than Errol did. Crawford is boxer-puncher with good defense, ala Broner except he is much better especially when moving his hands and making adjustments. if Porter tries to bum rush Crawford he'd get picked apart because Crawford will make him miss and make him pay where as Errol wanted to engage him. Not that one is better than the other, just the style changes the look of the fight.

yeah the broner porter fight was my first time watching a porter fight and Broner simply wasnt throwing punches which is the case in majority of his losses. If broner let his hands go we wouldnt talk lile he was a bum now (he isnt a bum what so ever just a weirdo)

 

[Apollo Creed]

I think what's becoming clear here with this class of welterweights is that none of these guys are head and shoulders above any of the other ones right now, ala Floyd. Which is fine. Just dudes need to stop talking about fighter y is gonna destroy fighter x. These guys may start trading losses with each other and there's nothing wrong with that if it makes for some good rematches/trilogies.

Flyod warped peoples minds that you are a bum if you arent undefeated lol. Look at Ruiz for example, because of his one loss and his physique non boxing fans were talking like dude was trash, but whem i looked up brehs highlights when he was announced to fight Joshua initially, breh look good as hell.

 

[reservoirdogs]

It's not like Spence's stock took a bit hit, he's still a dog, a good bodypuncher and skilled inside fighter but he was supposed to be clear cut a level above the rest of the PBC 147 stable and that hasn't proven true/come out yesterday. They looked to be around the same level and Porter showed chinks in his armour we didn't know about. Thurman had a similarly close fight with Porter. That big "I'm separating myself as the top dog/special talent from the rest of these guys" moment hasn't come.
Imo Spence would deal with Swift more comfortably, he would outwork him to a clear UD, Swift can tag him but can't put him down.
Spence vs Pac is interesting now to me and of course Bud vs Spence.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[desjardins]

Crawford nor Spence are household names - they have no reason to cash out on what will be their biggest fight. Mayweather’s fight with Pacquaio didn’t come after a fight in which he made $2 million. Spence and Porter made $2 million for this fight, there is no justification for making Spence/Crawford now

Boxing has to be the only sport where fans argue for lesser matches just so people they don't know could potentially make more money later
Canelo career is basically a rebuttal to the narrative that all these boxers need to wait for more money while taking easier fights
Also how do we know Manny Vs Mayweather wouldn't have made even more if done in their primes. Manny got KTFO by Marquez in the meantime which ruined the narrative for a lot of casuals and I know several ppl who didn't order that fight cause they were basically over waiting for it and felt both dudes were past their prime

 

[klutch2381]

That’s real. Glad that he’s that self-aware.

 

[Apollo Creed]

exactly dudes need to stay in shape year round. Having to lose 20 lbs in 10 weeks at these guys sizes aint good lol.

dudes so always be within 5-10lbs of the weight they fight at. But then alot of dudes will get exposed as being weight bullys.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I saw Crawford trending on twitter during the day, that sucker ass "let's pretend he doesn't exist" tactic won't work. Crawford is on ESPN/ESPN+/ESPN PPV, won't just disappear from people's eyes just cause FOX doesn't wanna talk about him.

 

[reservoirdogs]

crawford needs to fight porter. bud is in danger of becoming irrelevant

why cause FOX hasn't talked about him?
He's on a big network, with big financial backing, people know about him and demanding him vs Spence, just saw him trending on twitter today, he doesn't have to worry about becoming irrelevant. A name opponent would be good of course...

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Boxing has to be the only sport where fans argue for lesser matches just so people they don't know could potentially make more money later
Canelo career is basically a rebuttal to the narrative that all these boxers need to wait for more money while taking easier fights
Also how do we know Manny Vs Mayweather wouldn't have made even more if done in their primes. Manny got KTFO by Marquez in the meantime which ruined the narrative for a lot of casuals and I know several ppl who didn't order that fight cause they were basically over waiting for it and felt both dudes were past their prime

Boxing is the only sport where people who know nothing about boxing throw their hat in the ring to speculate

I’m not arguing for or against

I’m just being realistic

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

I saw Crawford trending on twitter during the day, that sucker ass "let's pretend he doesn't exist" tactic won't work. Crawford is on ESPN/ESPN+/ESPN PPV, won't just disappear from people's eyes just cause FOX doesn't wanna talk about him.

That may be true . . But doesn’t negate the fact that he has to build a resume so the fight can maximize market value

 

[NZA]

why cause FOX hasn't talked about him?
He's on a big network, with big financial backing, people know about him and demanding him vs Spence, just saw him trending on twitter today, he doesn't have to worry about becoming irrelevant. A name opponent would be good of course...

he cant keep fighting trash forever. these PBC boys are fighting each other and doing it big. crawford has no leverage. that's why i think he has to go to someone like porter first, get on a joint PBC venture and get their casual audience to see what he can do. then the demands for a spence/porter fight will build the money potential even bigger than what it is right now.

 

[aceboon]

This vid was from during the Spence vs Mikey buildup, he was dead on about Spence vs Porter. Props to him, I didn't see it

 

[krackdagawd]

I love the coli we got a fire as fight i came in here looking for breakdowns maybe someone caught something i aint see and its just nikkas arguing