9/28 PBC on FOX PPV: Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter (WBC/IBF Welterweight Title unification)
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I'm sure it's been covered in this thread but man it's unreal how bad Lennox is at commentary. This dude actually said: "Let me clarify, that cut could have come from a headbutt...... or a punch"
Anyway great fight right man won.
i still dont see how anyone can say that lennox belongs in the gotdamn booth at this point..he hadnt improved since his hbo stint
What's crazy is that Spence has a Hagler-like crowd pleasing title win and these tap dancers came from nowhere 5 mins later saying Crawford will make it look easy..where is the fukking proof of this? What pressure fighter has Crawford faced? That's why I said he needed to make Lipinets or Ugas step up? I dont think they would back down because of that Russian pride shyt and it's for the title...lol. Spence is top 3 p4p now since Loma isnt doing nothing.
Dallas' 4 Eva
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Crawford would never attempt to fight Spence on the inside he would get slaughtered that way, that's why I stopped reading that post. If styles make fights like we all know they do we know a Spence/Crawford fight would look nothing like what we saw last night, using this as a way to guage Spence/Crawford is foolish.
Miss Roy...
Definitely worth the money...best fight in maybe the last 4 years. It's up there.Good fight but not worth that PPV price amount of $75. Hopefully, Spence vs. Garcia will not be PPV, but with PBC/FOX's new track record I am sure it will be.
For that price, the cards really need to be stacked up. I know they are Haymon fighters but they are not Mayweather status right now so the PPV cards need to be really stacked. I am still not sold on the overall presentation of the PBC/FOX events, they still need to work out the kinks. The commentary needs a lot of work, bring Tarver back he's way better than Lewis, the camera angles, etc. The main thing you can't tell by the presentation if you are watching a regular PBC/Fox event or a PPV event. At least with HBO, they had a certain presentation for their normal fights on HBO but they raised that bar even more for their PPV events. HBO and Showtime are still lightyears better then PBC & Top Rank/ESPN production values. What I do like about PBC they are giving added exposure to the fighters to market themselves to make them more popular with the casuals.
I dont want to seem like I'm some fukking Crawford hater..that's bullshyt. Crawford is great but he needs to FACE some real guys next year. There is just no more justifying it..Spence is facing contenders and champions..top rated ones while a Canelo cherry picks and Crawford is fighting MEAN MACHINE..he's showing animated Twitter emojis last night yet has no good fights even on the horizon? That's crazy.yall nikkas need towith the Crawford slander. shyt is political as fukk...thats all. Spence is the #1 guy but Crawford is obviously #2 and his biggest threat. Then you have Manny. if you switched places with Bud and Spence then it would be reverse. Crawford is the most technically proficient WW there is now. He has some of the best adaptability as anyone since Floyd. He has speed, power, footwork, and good size/reach. As I said before, Bud needs that Spence fight sooner than later but being with Arum doesnt make him a tier below any damn body....it only makes it hard for him to get in the mix with the guys with the visibility. I'll say right now....Thurman was a problem for Manny and would be a problem for Spence, although I would favor Spence.....I would just about put money on the fact that Bud would the one guy that could stop Thurman.
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good level headed argument breh..catch rep
LinusCaldwell
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I think Manny would be a problem for Spence.
Some of you are saying Crawford has the skillset to beat Spence
Nobody should be saying Crawford has the experience that shows that
Crawford fans mean to say he is better than his experience
Which is like saying Spence is technically better when he fights outclassed opponents
Fact of the matter is, and most of you stans would like to overlook (but can’t when you talk to unobjective folk like myself - and some of you cowards like @*DalMem* are negging me over their stanhood but can’t respond with a solid argument) is that Porter did everything he said he would do in this fight and, to some extent, evaporated that boogeyman image that Spence has. This is the fight where Spence fought the top level talent of the division, it was a great fight and a great night of boxing but he did NOT do what he said he was going to do and was by no means anything more than slightly better by the smallest of margins. Spence is not lightyears ahead of his division, as his fans would’ve liked to of believed - this statement hurts them because they bought into the mythology - they will get emotional about this and probably beg me like the coward @*DalMem* has already done but they will not engage with me because they have no shot of putting together a response to this. Last night was the night where Spence was to prove that mythology that his fans bought into, and he did not. There is no reason to believe that fights against Thurman or Danny Garcia would not be “barn burners” that could go either way
There is also no argument that accounts for experience that could say that Crawford would’ve done better. The people that wish to assert this can only point to a skillset . . which has been established against outskilled and outmatched opponents, if we were to continue to talk along those lines than Errol is a boogeyman and Crawford is a technically proficient gift to the division
That’s just not the case, and if they want to build this fight Al Haymon is going to have to work with Crawford’s team so that they can begin to build him a resume that would justify the hype for this fight, otherwise Spence is going to lose the value of what is destined to be his biggest fight in this division
Nobody should be saying Crawford has the experience that shows that
Crawford fans mean to say he is better than his experience
Which is like saying Spence is technically better when he fights outclassed opponents
Fact of the matter is, and most of you stans would like to overlook (but can’t when you talk to unobjective folk like myself - and some of you cowards like @*DalMem* are negging me over their stanhood but can’t respond with a solid argument) is that Porter did everything he said he would do in this fight and, to some extent, evaporated that boogeyman image that Spence has. This is the fight where Spence fought the top level talent of the division, it was a great fight and a great night of boxing but he did NOT do what he said he was going to do and was by no means anything more than slightly better by the smallest of margins. Spence is not lightyears ahead of his division, as his fans would’ve liked to of believed - this statement hurts them because they bought into the mythology - they will get emotional about this and probably beg me like the coward @*DalMem* has already done but they will not engage with me because they have no shot of putting together a response to this. Last night was the night where Spence was to prove that mythology that his fans bought into, and he did not. There is no reason to believe that fights against Thurman or Danny Garcia would not be “barn burners” that could go either way
There is also no argument that accounts for experience that could say that Crawford would’ve done better. The people that wish to assert this can only point to a skillset . . which has been established against outskilled and outmatched opponents, if we were to continue to talk along those lines than Errol is a boogeyman and Crawford is a technically proficient gift to the division
That’s just not the case, and if they want to build this fight Al Haymon is going to have to work with Crawford’s team so that they can begin to build him a resume that would justify the hype for this fight, otherwise Spence is going to lose the value of what is destined to be his biggest fight in this division
Dallas' 4 Eva
Superstar
Ok does that change my point at all? All that tells me he is a day 1 and I respect the fact he not switching up. Still don't change anything I said.
desjardins
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Yea I don't consider Garcia or Porter to be "top guys". I guess that's the difference. They are top PBC guys, sure. Yall doing this thing where since all the top PBC guys are fighting and struggling against each other it's confirmation bias that they are as good as yall been claiming. I see it as all of them being overrated.
Spence just went from being heads and shoulders above Porter and should be easy win and even a TKO or KO for him to now Porter now being elevated higher than ppl were claiming and now Spence not being able to do WHAT HE PREDICTED means nothing because Porter is such a "top guy" apparently.
shyt is just classic juelzing. I'm sure the minute Crawford beats one of these dudes and does it more convincingly than whatever PBC fighter beat them it's going be excuses for why just like you gave for Manny beating former PBC boogeyman Thurman
Last night he said "how can one guy be winning all the rounds when it's two guys in there"
Manny tires out 5 rounds in...Spence damn near kills him.
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