9/28 PBC on FOX PPV: Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter (WBC/IBF Welterweight Title unification)

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I just checked the compubox, I thought Porter threw more punches, but Spence threw 745 to Porters 744 and landed at a significantly higher rate(especially power and body shots). I agreed with the 116-111 for Spence, although I will eat a little crow(looking at you @mag357 ) cause Porter did bring out the dog in Spence.

This fight did not change my opinion though, Spence would still beat Crawford. Porter had something nobody else did... His dad trained Spence during the olympics, he knew his strengths and weaknesses and still couldn't do it. I'm disappointed cause of no KO by Spence like he promised, but in no way is this a blemish on Spence.

 

[prince_peoples]

I was asking because Porter never seemed tired or hurt from Spence body blows.

Porter was def tired by round 12, if this was a 15 round fight he woulda be stopped

He started to really go eat broken down in those last 3 rounds

 

[mson]

Can I get a small fight recap?

 

[Liu Kang]

Great fight, scored it 116-111 Spence but can see a 115-112 depending on the swing rounds in the beginning.

I liked the commitment from Spence to go to the body and that actually paid from the 8th round on. It's at that point that Porter was starting to be opened to the head and when Spence started to drift away in my scorecard (before that I had it 4-3 and this was super close). Porter made the fight rugged and that was expected but I like that Spence actually agreed and went on with it. Spence do not have Thurman's movement to keep Porter off him so all in all, that made it a tense fight and I actually fist bumped when Errol scored the KD because I knew then that the fight was in the bag. Porter style is messy as hell and man missed plenty and was getting caught a lot closing in. But somehow his style make it so that it looks like Spence was hit much even when he was managing to block. The cleaner work was definitely from Spence but the aggression was from Porter. At some point, it was a proper war and I think by the 3rd, it was already on pace to be a FOTY candidate and the whole crowd was on their feet already

I think both figthers come out positively from this fight. Crawford fans will say that Spence stock decreased which I can understand from their perspective but IMO it's the opposite. Spence is more the puncher type so him beating Porter at his own game shows that he has more versatility than expected but also that he can go to war if necessary. The type of mentality that earn championships rounds when the fight is on the edge. He did get hit more than expected but it's logical when you choose to trade in the inside above all with a guy as unorthodox as Porter. Overall, he managed to match Shawn's physicality and got the better of the exchanges more often than not. His weaknesses are still the same but he gained some more strengths off that fight I think.

Porter on the other hand still proves he's top 5 at 147 and to me, he's actually the gatekeeper of the division. He lost but made it close with Thurman and Spence and managed to put a ceiling that Garcia and Ugas couldn't beat (deserved or not is another question). I think before any cross promotion unification with Crawford, there has to be a Crawford-Porter fight. This wouldn't feel right otherwise IMO. I think the only mistake his team made was willingly not defending the body shots and focusing on countuering to the head as it allowed damage to pile up and at the end, you could feel he was really bothered with Spence's body work. Also, I think Porter can beat Pacman if he makes it to the second half of the fight and if Manny makes the same strategic mistake he did against Thurman. Because if he does try to get toe to toe with Shawn, Manny won't survive the sheer physicality and endurance of Porter in the latter rounds.

I also hope Molina retires soon because if the goes up to get starched by Lopez, there's no reason to continue. That low left hand had him opened to the overhand right all night and he never adapted for some reason. Dudes needs to wrap it up.

And to finish, Lennox still is that bad at commenting, can't Thurman step up and take his place ?

 

[BrothaZay]

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[CHERUB]

Marvoulous Marvin Hagler-like

great analogy. He got a little Holyfield in him too. Glen Johnson too not so much style but with that jamaican chin. Knocking out a Jamaican bout as hard as knocking out a mexican.

 

[OfTheCross]

Lol @ the end of the post fight press conference

 

[Liu Kang]

Can I get a small fight recap?

Basically it was back and forth action until round 10 where Spence took the last 3 (on my card). It was close, though I felt like rounds were being won fairly clearly but you could have it 6-3 to 3-6 until then (wide on both if so IMO but possible) but after the 9th Porter was being broken down on the inside and the KD sealed his fate. Body work paid off for Spence but that allowed Porter to hit him upstairs plenty but this was on purpose as Shawn'd dad told him to accept the body work so he could focus on the head which I think was a bit of a mistake. Spence also accepted the challenge for a rough fight whether he wanted or being forced to depending on your POV and who you support

Nobody got hurt and Porter on the KD just had his legs wobbled for a second because he got hit flush by a short left hook while he was throwing his. 15 seconds after man was war ready again. Unlike the Ugas, Shawn didn't try to box, he made it rugged and went there head first trying to bully Spence. But Spence matched the intensity and that made it a really tough and close fight though IMO, Errol got the better of most of the exchanges. There were some roughouse tactics logically but referee was really good and the fight flowed very well. Spence got a small cut in the second half but it was caused by a clash of heads (there weren't many which was surprising) and didn't really matter at all.

 

[desjardins]

But now when I look at the intangibles on a Spence-Crawford fight, the only outcome I see right now is spence getting a boxing lesson and very likely stopped. That's not shytting on spence. That's just me giving my honest opinion. Crawford just has so many advantages over spence. If Spence fights at midrange he's gonna get picked apart. If he goes inside he's gonna get countered. Crawford is just so much faster and sharper than him at close range. The way spence lunges in headfirst with his chin exposed is like a wet dream for a precision counter puncher like crawford. It won't take him long at all to start timing Spence who always fights at the same pace. And if we're being honest.....jose benavidez vs porter would be a great fukkin matchup. Shawn porter is still the same shawn porter who was getting rocked by adrian granados. Yea I would love to see Crawford vs guys like porter and danny garcia. But even without those matchups it's still very clear that bud is the best boxer in the division. It ain't got nothin to do with weak competition. Crawford is just a brilliant boxer. And I don't see any of these guys at 147 beating him.

The fact Spence basically couldn't do anything with Porter when Porter was on his toes is a bad look for a fight against Crawford (or Manny).
One sequence Porter landed like 4-5 jabs and rocked Spence with a hook and Spence was basically paralyzed by the movement
Coming in people were saying if Porter fought like he fought against Ugas he would get killed, last night fighting like that might have won him more rounds
As far as Crawford not having tough fights, they were saying the same shyt about Manny. Albeit Manny already had a resume built up but people were still looking at the Horn and Vargas fights acting like Manny would get killed by the PBC guys . Guys like Porter, Garcia, and Thurman are beatable. None of those might not even be tough fights for Crawford if we being real. It's a reason Haymon advising his guys from even mentioning that fight. Why risk Danny Garcia getting exposed like fukk on a split PPV when you can build him up as a tough opponent then cash out on Spence going life and death with him for 12 rounds. This narrative of anyone ducking or not facing good enough comp to compete with the PBC guys needs to be deaded. They average as hell.

 

[CHERUB]

When did this anointing of Terrace Crawford happen Bruh is a good figher for sure but i saw that midget Gamboa rock his ass. What proof is there he can go 12 with the best??

 

[Primetime]

I thought Spence won that shyt clearly but Porter is essentially a GOAT level gut-check gate-keeper.

i.e. If you're a top fighter then Porter is the guy who you *should* beat (as in you'll be the favorite) but he's going to make you earn that shyt and he'll test your heart and your knockout power. His tenacity tests how much dog you have in ya.

2nd time in a row I've seen Spence beat someone at their own game; first Garcia, now Porter. I'd lean towards him beating Crawford, but now I wonder if they'll have him go through Garcia and Thurman now. They all want his 0, plus the belts.

 

[Primetime]

When did this anointing of Terrace Crawford happen Bruh is a good figher for sure but i saw that midget Gamboa rock his ass. What proof is there he can go 12 with the best??

Spence is at the point where if he doesn't dominate and end with a K.O., the wolves will be out

As long as it's the same energy for Bud, then it's cool tbh. It comes with the hype train

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

When did this anointing of Terrace Crawford happen Bruh is a good figher for sure but i saw that midget Gamboa rock his ass. What proof is there he can go 12 with the best??

He getting a lot of credit for what he hypothetically would do, even though he hasn't ever beaten an elite fighter at their weight. Gamboa was his career best win and he was a blown up featherweight who Crawford had a 9 inch reach advantage on and Gamboa little ass rocked Crawfords shyt. Idk man I think people crowning Bud need to slow they roll just a little he aint unbeatable cause as much as Spence gets hit, Bud gets hit a lot too.

 

[desjardins]

He getting a lot of credit for what he hypothetically would do, even though he hasn't ever beaten an elite fighter at their weight. Gamboa was his career best win and he was a blown up featherweight who Crawford had a 9 inch reach advantage on and Gamboa little ass rocked Crawfords shyt. Idk man I think people crowning Bud need to slow they roll just a little he aint unbeatable cause as much as Spence gets hit, Bud gets hit a lot too.

Gamboa fight was over 5 yrs ago, Gamboa was undefeated and still considered good/dangerous back then
Honestly Crawford resume ain't as trash as people be trying make it. Beat Gamboa when he was undefeated, Durlome when he was somebody, Postol was undefeated and had just took Matthyesee soul, Jeff Horn is whatever but he gave Manny trouble, Benavidez and Khan each present certain challenges.
You'd think he was fighting Leonard Bundu or Carlos Ocampo or washed war torn dudes like Peterson or something the way yall talking

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

When did this anointing of Terrace Crawford happen Bruh is a good figher for sure but i saw that midget Gamboa rock his ass. What proof is there he can go 12 with the best??

I don't get it either...

Bud got skills but I can't see how anyone can put him over Spence right now...

His last 12 fights have been against C level competition and his most known opponent was Amir Khan...

Bud cannot be taken seriously till he starts fighting A boxers and that's not happening at 147 with Arum...