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Inflation does not come from creating money, but from it being circulating in the system. As long as it is not used it won't affect the value of the currency.
Agreed, which is why the Fed recapping the banks did not cause inflation.
I don't see why isolationism wouldn't work, mainly with the production of national brands.
Isolation in certain aspects, like foreign policy, can work. But isolationism != protectionism. Tariffs are garbage and a bandaid for a country's inability to compete. Its a bandaid for the symptom instead of the disease
 

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Isolation in certain aspects, like foreign policy, can work. But isolationism != protectionism. Tariffs are garbage and a bandaid for a country's inability to compete. Its a bandaid for the symptom instead of the disease

NAFTA and WTO wouldn't agree on tariffs anyways.

Outsourcing different sections of companies is/was the initial problem and needs to be dealt with.

But to address the post about auditing, I don't see the problem with having the government surveillance the FEDS annually. It is appropriate, especially when the FEDS have internal auditing conducted by correspondents from the large banks, can't we take a peek?
 

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I don't see why isolationism wouldn't work, mainly with the production of national brands.

Economic isolationism is a horrible idea and provides only short term solutions while creating long term problems to say the very least.
 

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why audit the fed? There hasn't been any gold backing the dollar for 40 yrs :laff:
 

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You yourself said you dont know much about economics :manny:

:snoop: i never said that. dont believe everything you read from other posters.

I mean the Fed has lent out/"created" trillions over the past few years. Why haven't we seen this inflation you say is coming, from the same shyt that they have been doing since 08?

we will.

gradual inflation over time is one thing.

but to drop several trillie in a two year span is a completely different beast.

plus we are lacking the economic infrastructure to soften the blow of the onsetting inflation, which makes everything worse.

lots of governments around the world are softening their position with the dollar cuz they know its doomed... americans are the only ones who dont know, for obvious reasons.

one, our media is controlled and filtered as propaganda, and two, we have to continue our consumerism until the last hour. we are no good to china and our debtors if we stop consuming. once we stop consuming we have ceased our usefulness. china lends us money so we can buy their shyt lol so we're getting fukked on both ends.

trust me, this will be ugly duke.

:stopitslime: Your the idiot talking about protectionism has been the foundation for prosperity for thousands of years. And that in order to get back on track we need to embrace quota's and tariffs again, you would be hard pressed to find an international trade economist who would agree with you.

:childplease: not protectionism across the board. many of our corps are locked and loaded for international competition and will BENEFIT from introduction into foreign markets.

but some sectors of the economy do need more protectionism, but not this current psuedo-protectionism on the part of our govt that benefits big corps, but the kind of protectionism that actually levels the playing field and rewards best business practices.

many shades of gray here

Inflation does not come from creating money, but from it being circulating in the system. As long as it is not used it won't affect the value of the currency.

you're just wrong here.

it was created by the fed and circulated to the banks, and the american taxpayer is picking up the tab.

that means its in the system, and now we are accountable for that money.

But isolationism != protectionism. Tariffs are garbage and a bandaid for a country's inability to compete. Its a bandaid for the symptom instead of the disease


its not protectionism across the board. every sector of the economy is different and every business is different.

Outsourcing different sections of companies is/was the initial problem and needs to be dealt with.

i agree there

But to address the post about auditing, I don't see the problem with having the government surveillance the FEDS annually. It is appropriate, especially when the FEDS have internal auditing conducted by correspondents from the large banks, can't we take a peek?

can we look at our OWN books? are you serious?!? do you hear what you sound like? "can't we take a peek?" lol cmon dude this is our show not theirs, grab ya balls.

a glorified accounting service tells you they cant account for 9 trillion dollars of YOUR money and youre asking politely to see YOUR books... lol un-fukking real.
 

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What is this based on?

gradual inflation over time is one thing.

but to drop several trillie in a two year span is a completely different beast.

Why haven't we seen any yet?

plus we are lacking the economic infrastructure to soften the blow of the onsetting inflation, which makes everything worse.
What economic infrastructure do we need to soften the blow, in your opinion? Any examples of such infrastructure working in the past?

lots of governments around the world are softening their position with the dollar cuz they know its doomed... americans are the only ones who dont know, for obvious reasons.
Really? Which gov'ts? How are they softening their positions?

one, our media is controlled and filtered as propaganda, and two, we have to continue our consumerism until the last hour. we are no good to china and our debtors if we stop consuming. once we stop consuming we have ceased our usefulness. china lends us money so we can buy their shyt lol so we're getting fukked on both ends.
How does what we buy from China compare to the debt they buy from us?

trust me, this will be ugly duke.

If you can answer any of the questions I asked, then we can begin to trust you.
 

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You know some inflation would actually be a good thing right now. The losers if we see some inflation would be old rich rich people with a lot of savings(top 1 percent types), importers(since the dollar will buy less) and banks(creditors). The winners would be young people with little savings(unemployment will go down), exporters(manufacturers etc. will add jobs, our goods will be cheaper to export) and debtors. The Fed is more focused on inflation and less on unemployment. I blame that partly on politics(congress), although historically the Fed has mostly focused on controlling inflation.
 

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You know some inflation would actually be a good thing right now. The losers if we see some inflation would be old rich rich people with a lot of savings(top 1 percent types), importers(since the dollar will buy less) and banks(creditors). The winners would be young people with little savings(unemployment will go down), exporters(manufacturers etc. will add jobs) and debtors. The Fed is more focused on inflation and less on unemployment. I blame that partly on politics(congress), although historically the Fed has mostly focused on controlling inflation.

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Just trying to put two and two together, but how would inflation help ANYONE off?? (Besides the new jobs) Even if unemployment would go down, wouldn't the younger generation just be working their asses off for less then what they would have gotten originally? I picture people working more than ever and living life a whole lot less.
 

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:merchant:

Just trying to put two and two together, but how would inflation help ANYONE off?? (Besides the new jobs) Even if unemployment would go down, wouldn't the younger generation just be working their asses off for less then what they would have gotten originally? I picture people working more than ever and living life a whole lot less.

Inflation is very low right now I believe (in fact the risk is deflation, not inflation) plus the trade deficit would suggest that our currency is overvalued and so would benefit from devaluation. There would be a downside to a weaker dollar but probably on balance it would improve the economy as a whole. There's certainly some point at which further devaluation doesn't get you anything worthwhile but I don't think we're close to that point.
 

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How could Feds create inflation, w/rates basically at zero, and deleveraging eating pretty much all the $$$$$ they are pumping

Plus, where would capital come from, with the biggest non US sources (Europe + China + Japan) caught up in their own problems

I mean I agree that the Fed is a lil overbearing WRT inflation, and have done a pretty good job keeping it under control, but it seems to me like we are in a deflationary period, w/the Fed just providing enough capital to plug the leaks w/o problems spilling over into civilian territory
 

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Fed aint following their dual mandate hard enough. Inflation is low, they should target higher inflation to get out the Zero Lower bound. We need to get out of a recession this severe as fast as possible and take whatever steps neccesary.

Bernanke is not following his own ideas about Japan in the 1990s hard enough.
 
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