8 billy in food stamp cuts, they don't really care about us

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The plan, which the Congressional Budget Office estimates will cut spending by $16.6 billion over 10 years from current levels, reflects the clout of rural and urban allies who succeeded in keeping farm subsidies and nutrition programs together over Republican objections. Supporters said the bipartisan bill showed political differences can be bridged. Opponents said the bill was rushed to a vote to avoid criticism about its cost.

“Many criticize us and this body for being dysfunctional,” Republican Representative Frank Lucas of Oklahoma, the House Agriculture Committee chairman who led negotiations on a final package, said on the floor before the vote. “I hope this reflects a change in how we do our business here across the board.”

The legislation governing U.S. Department of Agriculture programs emerged after more than two years of debate, with some lawmakers seeking to use the measure to curb spending and end subsidy programs. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid yesterday predicted the plan, a compromise between competing versions passed by the two chambers, will pass the Senate which could take up the measure as soon as this week.

Bunge, Ace
The bill governs farm subsidies, which encourages planting of soybeans, cotton and other crops by lowering costs for commodity processors including Bunge Ltd. The legislation subsidizes crop-insurance provided by companies such as Ace Ltd. and funds purchases at Kroger Co. and other grocers with food stamps, its biggest cost.

The legislation would cut food-stamp spending by $8.6 billion over 10 years, though additions to other programs bring nutrition-aid cuts down to $8 billion -- one-fifth of the $40 billion sought by Republicans and fought by Democrats and food retailers.

Total savings would be $23 billion over 10 years, higher than the budget-office estimate, after automatic cuts in all federal spending tied to an earlier budget deal are included, according to agriculture committee staff.

Crop-growers facing loss of $50 billion in subsidies retained about two-thirds of it through other aid, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Conservation initiatives would lose $6 billion, largely through consolidation of existing programs. Crop insurers that paid out $17 billion after the severe 2012 were largely unscathed.

The bill ends the possibility, for at least five years, of U.S. farm policies reverting to a 1949 law that would potentially double milk prices.

Lobbying Efforts
Final passage in the Senate would bring to an end the agriculture community’s toughest legislative fight in almost two decades.

At least 325 companies and organizations, including Monsanto Co., PepsiCo Inc. and Dean Foods Co., registered as lobbyists in 2013 to work on the Senate bill through the end of October -- the fifth-most of any legislation, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Only bills on the federal budget, appropriations, immigration and defense generated more lobbying interest, according to the center, a Washington-based research group that tracks campaign donations.

Agribusiness, an industry of crop and livestock producers, food manufacturers and dairy farmers among others, spent $111.5 million on lobbying in the same period, more than the defense industry and labor unions, according to the center.

Companies and individuals in agriculture made about $93 million in campaign donations during the 2012 presidential campaign and have given $20 million so far in 2014 congressional races.

Bipartisan Success
The farm-policy legislation is among the few bipartisan achievements of this Congress, which this month cleared a $1.1 trillion spending bill and overcame disputes on presidential nominees to confirm more than a dozen.

Opponents said that, after debate dating to budget negotiations in late 2011, the bill’s passage has come too quickly to examine the legislation that is more about political clout than sound policy.

“Many would like this whole farm bill issue to go away,” said Representative James McGovern of Massachusetts, a Democrat who voted against the bill, before the floor vote. Still, “the people who will be hurt by this bill won’t go away,” he said. “This bill will make hunger worse in America, not better.”

Club for Growth and Heritage Action, which back smaller government and lower taxes, both alerted lawmakers they would include the vote on scorecards used to evaluate congressional candidates, encouraging them to vote against the plan.

“The ‘farm’ bill means more expenses for taxpayers and higher costs for consumers,” Heritage Action said in its release yesterday designating the bill a “key vote.” “It means more unnecessary government dependence for wealthy farmers and food stamp recipients.”

The bill is H.R. 2642
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For Obama to get anything done, he has to say f*ck the poor people :smh: How could the average hick who lives below the poverty line think they have anything in common with these globalist Republicans? These nikkaz could give a f*ck about food prices, they need those subsidies to compete in the international market where they can sell more volume, and would rather single mothers, poor folk, and young college grads starve than innovate :smh: Mike Jack wasn't kidding. And of all times to cut food stamps, you cut them in the middle of the worst recession in decades? :snoop:
 

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How could the average hick who lives below the poverty line think they have anything in common with these globalist Republicans?


Agreed, but how many average blacks and latinos that live below the poverty line think they have anything in common with Centrist, Corporate Democrats? That's important to consider too. A lot of the problems and issues that affect the poor come from Democratic Politicians.
 

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Agreed, but how many average blacks and latinos that live below the poverty line think they have anything in common with Centrist, Corporate Democrats? That's important to consider too. A lot of the problems and issues that affect the poor come from Democratic Politicians.

Yeah, but it's the white hicks that give the Repubs power, they are the ones that vote Repub en masse, not realizing the senators they are voting for are the ones that are f*cking everything up. It's the Repubs who damn near put the country in default, It's the Repubs who want to keep kicking the can, it's the Repubs who don't want to raise minimum wage, and if you read the article, it's the Repubs who were trying to cut 40 billion from food stamps. Yet they fight tooth and nail for farm subsidies. The amount of hypocrisy it takes to be a Republican is remarkable, you literally have to have no soul in order to do what they do.
 

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Yeah, but it's the white hicks that give the Repubs power, they are the ones that vote Repub en masse, not realizing the senators they are voting for are the ones that are f*cking everything up. It's the Repubs who damn near put the country in default, It's the Repubs who want to keep kicking the can, it's the Repubs who don't want to raise minimum wage, and if you read the article, it's the Repubs who were trying to cut 40 billion from food stamps. Yet they fight tooth and nail for farm subsidies. The amount of hypocrisy it takes to be a Republican is remarkable, you literally have to have no soul in order to do what they do.

Democrats have wealthy sponsors and donors to answer to as well, and when you answer to the wealthy and corporations, the poor and working class picks up the tab, whether directly or indirectly. Giving a pass to the Democrats on these matters is what got us here in the first place.
 

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Raising min wage and cutting food stamps seems like a good trade off...:ehh:


...if it happens


It's not. Minimum wage hasn't been raised. The only thing that MIGHT be raised is NEW federal employee contractors, and that will happen over the course of a few years if it goes down.

So, there is no trade off. At all.
 

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Democrats have wealthy sponsors and donors to answer to as well, and when you answer to the wealthy and corporations, the poor and working class picks up the tab, whether directly or indirectly. Giving a pass to the Democrats on these matters is what got us here in the first place.

You're mixing political reality and the root/cause of issues. Of course the Dems have wealthy backers like a Soros for example, no doubt. But read the article, it wasn't the Dems pushing for 40 billy in food stamp cuts

Raising min wage and cutting food stamps seems like a good trade off...:ehh:


...if it happens

But minimum wage has not been raised. Even if it is, it would need to be risen by more than the rumored amount to account for the rising costs of food.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...de-deals-sought-by-biggest-u-s-companies.html

to $10.10 per hour. Republicans have shown little support for such a plan, and business groups such as the National Retail Federation oppose it. That roadblock prompted Obama to announce an executive action to raise the wage to $10.10 per hour for federal contract workers.
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If you want money from Repubs, you gotta take it in blood :heh: :wow:
 

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Raising min wage and cutting food stamps seems like a good trade off...:ehh:


...if it happens

so a good trade off is to give them a raise, then cancel out that raise with rising food costs. Your posts are too much. :russ:
 

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so a good trade off is to give them a raise, then cancel out that raise with rising food costs. Your posts are too much. :russ:

Breh, think before posting. Food costs have already risen, Obama is trying to compensate for inflation. Food stamps have nothing to do with rising food costs. The idea is that if you have more money, then you don't need food stamps :obama:
 

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cutting food stamps hurts everyone and has been proven to in studies

it's common sense to expand food stamps not to cut them
 

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cutting food stamps hurts everyone and has been proven to in studies

it's common sense to expand food stamps not to cut them

Especially in a cotdamn recession. These repubs are heartless breh. Meanwhile they're at the discount window every morning picking up every piece of paper the Fed is printing to pump their stocks up to keep their portfolios high and their dividends coming in every quarter. Just evil, there's no other way to say it, how you can accept welfare yet deny it to others?
 
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