70% of Prisoners Come From Single Mother Households

[Brolic]

Men are supposed to be the leaders of the community. Leaders take responsibility for their failures, behind every single mother is an man who didn't want to take accountability.

Women aren't solely responsible for the fatherless children in the black community.

All males aren't men. NBA Young Boy had multiple baby mamas before he was famous/had money. Those women chose an unemployed retarded street nikka over a man with a stable job. More than half of black men don't even have kids. You can't keep blaming black men when black women are purposefully choosing to become single mothers and having children with type of black men who shouldn't be fathers.

The average asian and white woman isn't having babies with an unemployed man living in his mamas house, but in our community that's not uncommon. Black women aren't any different from any other race of women. Like @King Poetic said, black women know better but they just don't care.

 

[Uachet]

sounds like single fathers are the best parental situations

If we interpreted the stats in the same manner that the Expatriarch (The white male feminist in the TikTok) did, then yes it would be possible to come to that conclusion. The truth is though, the interpretation of the data does not support that assertion nor the assertion he was making outside of the actual stat being wrong. Even then, it was no one's fault the stat used was wrong outside of the government supported organization that posted the stat.

*edit: I recognize you are joking. I just wanted to respond with a bit of clarification on the validity of the Expatriarch's interpretation of the stats.

 

[3rdWorld]

I blame the absentee fathers..the mothers could have dumped the kid but they did the best they could and failed.

Why is the problem so bad in America though..

 

[Uachet]

I blame the absentee fathers..the mothers could have dumped the kid but they did the best they could and failed.

Why is the problem so bad in America though..

Too many of the absentee fathers have children by multiple women. Too many women are knowingly having children by unfit men whom they already know have children they are not taking care of elsewhere. Until we are truthful about the situation overall, then direct blame and effort to change the circumstances can not be applied correctly.

Truthfully, the real solution to the problem is to marry before you carry. We have over 12 different forms of birth control. There is no excuse for the men nor the women to be having children out of wedlock. Those having the children evidently want the children.

 

[3rdWorld]

Too many of the absentee fathers have children by multiple women. Too many women are knowingly having children by unfit men whom they already know have children they are not taking care of elsewhere. Until we are truthful about the situation overall, then direct blame and effort to change the circumstances can not be applied correctly.

Truthfully, the real solution to the problem is to marry before you carry. We have over 12 different forms of birth control. There is no excuse for the men nor the women to be having children out of wedlock. Those having the children evidently want the children.

I'd say the kids in schools need to be taught this stuff early on so it sinks in, but Republicans are against any form of sexual reproduction and social issues being taught in schools.
But it has to be instilled early that certain behaviors and conduct is degrading, debilitating and a waste of time and opportunity.
This is stuff you expect from an underdeveloped, uneducated and extremely poor society beyond America.

These women having stray kids with bums clealry don't value themselves and that's something the roots of need to be examined and eradicated.

 

[The Half-Blood FKA Prince]

Right?

on TikTok

Yeah no cape but im not with placing the blame solely on the mother. It takes an egg AND a sperm, a vaj AND a dikk to make a baby.

It would also help if folks would stop trying to shame step fathers from stepping up. It takes a village.

 

[V Skyye]

Behind many single mothers is a man, actually. The majority of Black men, 54%, are childless. That is not the case for the majority of Black women. The majority of Black single mother creators are high recidivism felons and drug users (16-18%) of Black men. Since the majority of Black men are not even involved in the problem, the majority of Black men can not be blamed for the problem.

While women aren't solely responsible for the fatherless children in the Black community, the majority of Black men are not responsible for it either.

I’m assuming you’re quoting stats from the NHS article that’s always posted here with the percentage of men and women with children. But where does the bolded come from? In that particular study, all races of women reported more children than all races of men and the study said that they didn’t know the reasons why. So I’m wondering if you got the bolded from another source.

Also a 2014 fertility study for men put the statistic of Black men who are fathers a bit higher and seems to have used a larger sample. That study says 62% of Black men have children by age 39 and 82% by age 49.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr179.pdf

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2019/demo/P70-162.pdf

 

[Treblemaka]

I'm just here to read how many different excuses supposed black men are making for why black men aren't more active in raising their own biological children.

 

[Uachet]

I’m assuming you’re quoting stats from the NHS article that’s always posted here with the percentage of men and women with children. But where does the bolded come from? In that particular study, all races of women reported more children than all races of men and the study said that they didn’t know the reasons why. So I’m wondering if you got the bolded from another source.

Also a 2014 fertility study for men put the statistic of Black men who are fathers a bit higher and seems to have used a larger sample. That study says 62% of Black men have children by age 39 and 82% by age 49.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr179.pdf

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2019/demo/P70-162.pdf

I suggest you look at that NHSR chart again. It directly shows that 54% of Black men are in the none category.

Now the percentages of multiple children by men and their correlation to being high recidivism felons and drug users were posted in another thread with the documentation previously. You can do a search to find it.

 

[V Skyye]

I suggest you look at that NHSR chart again. It directly shows that 54% of Black men are in the none category.

I agreed with that survey. I also posted a link from the Census and asked where the other data you mentioned came from.

When Do Men Become Dads?

Percentage of men who are fathers by age, race and Hispanic origin.

www.census.gov

 

[Uachet]

I agreed with that survey. I also posted a link from the Census and asked where the other data you mentioned came from.

The documentation is posted in another thread along with pictures of the data. You can find it with a search on this site.

 

[V Skyye]

The documentation is posted in another thread along with pictures of the data. You can find it with a search on this site.

Ok. Because it seems that you’re doing the same thing the entire TikTok is about, which is using one set of data to make a conclusion that this data doesn’t say. No matter if you use the health statistics data or census data on men’s fertility, these studies don’t state how many men and women have kids for multiple people and whether men use drugs and are incarcerated.

 

[NobodyReally]

Dude does a great job of breaking down what’s wrong with the way this statistic is presented

TikTok - Make Your Day

Dad debunks the patriarchal claim that 70% of sons of single mothers end up in jail

He criticizes male influencers and podcasters who perpetuate this myth, stating that it is based on made-up information.

scoop.upworthy.com

According to the Department of Justice, as of 2021, there were approximately 1.2 million people incarcerated in the United States, as Brent mentions in his video. The Annie E. Casey Foundationestimates that there are currently 24 million children living in single-parent households. Brent uses the rough midpoint of this range in his video to demonstrate how the 70-80% claim makes no sense. Brent emphasizes that the specifics of these claims, made mostly by men vary to a large degree.

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"Seventy percent of the estimated 19 million children raised in single-mother homes would be about 13 million." Given that there are only 1.2 million people in prison, 70-80% is "an absurdly wrong number." He added, "We're not sure if it's 70% or if it's 80% if it represents all prisoners, just young men, or only Black men. However, what we do know [according to these inaccurate claims] is that prisons are full of young men from single-mother homes, and the womenfolk are to blame for it."

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According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 70% of juvenile delinquents come from single-parent homes, including children raised by their fathers, as well as children raised by other relatives or in foster care. Single-parent households accounted for only 54% of juvenile delinquents overall, including single fathers. But, as Brent points out, the figure has been misrepresented in addition to being 35 years out of date.

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"Since your lifetime incarceration risk is about 5%, what that means is instead of 70% of children raised by single mothers going to jail, actually, well over 80% will avoid ever seeing a jail," he said. Children raised by single fathers have the highest rates of incarceration, especially once their father finds a new girlfriend or remarries. According to a University of Nebraska-Lincoln study cited in Brent's TikTok, 40% of single fathers abandon their children within eight years — a rate that skyrockets when the single father finds a new partner.

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Brent concludes it well, "If we really care about improving childhood outcomes, then we need to stop talking about single mothers and instead talk about... fathers that treat their children as disposable." As many misogynist podcasters today like to say, "Facts don't care about your feelings." Also, don't forget to apply cold water to that burnt area. Never mind, that might not help either.

 

[Uachet]

Ok. Because it seems that you’re doing the same thing the entire TikTok is about, which is using one set of data to make a conclusion that this data doesn’t say. No matter if you use the health statistics data or census data on men’s fertility, these studies don’t state how many men and women have kids for multiple people and whether men use drugs and are incarcerated.

You have not even looked at the studies, and yet here you are stating I used it wrong. Let me find the actual posts that have the information in them, before you try to leap to that conclusion.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/brehette-is-a-parenting-expert-and-goes-viral-for-whaf-she-says-about-black-boys.970259/page-15#post-49011062

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265397775_Men_Who_Father_Children_with_More_Than_One_Woman_A_Contemporary_Portrait_of_Multiple-Partner_Fertility

That is the research on the multiple partner fertility.

 

[Gloxina]

OP is a Feminist agent likely from "that other site" only here for the sole purpose of running interference and reporting back intel.

Literally here and 90% of the agents in this section only show up for propaganda or threads with misandry undertones (time to shyt on a black man). You never see them in normal ass threads lol

You are a lowkey divestor lol. It's a fact that most prisoners come from single parent households. Wether its a single mom or father or single grandparent. Why? Mostly because one parent works while the kid basically does whatever.

Ain’t nobody a divestor, agent, etc. I haven’t dated white men. Stop.

I saw this shyt online and thought I might get one more plat before the year ended.

I’ve commented in a few other threads since this and this is my first time stepping in here after making it. I didn’t actually think it’d get to 8 pages.

NOW, what I will say is that the single-mother automatically = child going to jail thing is rampant in these online videos and it’s ridiculous, but I will most certainly acknowledge how necessary a father is in the household/life of a child and how lost a child could be without his influence and guidance.

In the end, I think we need to focus on telling both sexes how to be more responsible.


I feel like we keep skirting around the issue.
YES a lot of these women make stupid decisions when it comes to the men they share their bodies with, AND a lot of these men make stupid decisions to not be around for the kid they created. This isn’t ONLY going to be solved by women just not having sex. We need a culture that teaches BOTH sexes to value moving on to the mature stage of life and having kids within wedlock.

Shyt is outrageous in our community because BOTH sexes lack shame. There are other cultures where the women don’t want to get pregnant out of wedlock AND the men also feel shame for possibly creating children out of wedlock. How to WE go back to being a culture where both the women AND men are shamed for shytty behavior?

It’s shameful to spread your legs for a bum, a scammer, a dude who already has kids out of wedlock.

But it should be equally as shameful to BE a bum, a scammer, or a dude who has a child out of wedlock.

We have ppl who are not emotionally and financially equipped to have children creating lives and putting kids in fukked up situations where they may have no supervision or guidance that keeps them from being influenced by the streets. Thus, jail.

We gotta deal with the poverty/low-incomes. The bad neighborhoods. The people who for whatever reason can’t use condoms and birth control. The people who think marriage is a more serious commitment than creating LIFE.