[7/9/17] RAW Exclusive PPV WWE: Great Balls of Fire"

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Since he decimated Cena at Summerslam 2014, the longest singles match he's had was 18 minutes. It was a HIAC with Taker. His rematch with Cena was shorter than the first match. His matches with Punk and HHH were before the super dominant destroy everyone in minutes push started.



She literally stood out in the ring crying tears of joy when Bayley debuted. And every time Bayely wins or gets a reaction at all. And then she goes on the post show shyt and gushes like a 13 year old girl. There is NOTHING remotely heel about Sasha anymore, nor has there been for well over a year at this point. She's been a full blown face for a long time, breh.
You're watching something else..she cried for the title wins and making history but everything else is just white boys online crying about someone who the fans demanded to be face. So I'm not buying any of that silly rhetoric that has no basis or truth to it...its dumb. Her whole entrance is heel based...

The way she clowned Charlotte and shytted on fans in like her last several interviews? Lol. Get real.
 

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Sasha came off as a real a$$hole on Talking Raw. Face, heel, worked, shoot, the "You weren't a fan growing up so you don't count/respect DIS BIZNESS" shyt is the cringiest, most self-serving and self-aggrandizing martyrdom promo one can cut. It makes EVERYONE who says that shyt look like a whiny bytch. Especially when they're in their early 20s and didn't even start being aware of wrestling themselves until the Attitude Era.

Real sports are full of top tier athletes who didn't like the sport their in as a kid, nor do they enjoy playing it as a pro, but they're really good at it and it makes them money. No one ever shyts on those talents. shyt, WRESTLING ITSELF was almost exclusively non-fans until the 90s and on. It was full of real athletes or bouncers who flunked out of whatever other career and took up wrestling as a second option, or who did a sport that didn't really have a pro level to get paid and went into wrestling, or were just big dudes and someone said "hey, you ever try wrestling?".

Some of the biggest stars of the past 40 years weren't fans growing up. Nash, Angle, Hall, Goldberg, Nikita, Magnum, Warrior, Sting, Bruno, Hansen, Jack Brisco, Harley, etc etc etc and on and on and on. After all that hand wringing over the Alexa/Bayley angle where the heel made fun of the face for being a loser wrestling fan, the follow up feud has the face prove the heel right in a promo meant to be endearing to the fans. Loool.
I didn't get that from her promo at all. Sasha was accusing Bliss of pretending to have been a fan as a kid in order to get ahead. Moreover she indirectly accused Bliss of using wrestling as a stepping stone to get exposure instead of actually respecting the art form. It wasn't 'you weren't a fan so fukk you' it was 'you claim to have been a fan to cull favor when you weren't actually, so fukk you.'

As a matter of fact, at one point she said something like 'not every girl comes into this business a fan, but they learn to respect it.' I personally have heard interviews where Bliss talks about how she grew up idolizing Trish and had to hide her wrestling fandom from her mom. What I got from Sasha was the accusation that this is a lie Bliss perpetrates to get ahead.


And honestly when you compare Sasha's wrestling to Bliss' wrestling, it's not hard to believe that one takes it more seriously than the other.
 

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Watching the Big Cass promo right now. Holy hell its gonna be tough for this guy to get over without Enzo as his mouthpiece, all he ever says is 'I want da champion's hip, I want da Mania main event.'
 

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Since he decimated Cena at Summerslam 2014, the longest singles match he's had was 18 minutes. It was a HIAC with Taker. His rematch with Cena was shorter than the first match. His matches with Punk and HHH were before the super dominant destroy everyone in minutes push started.

I know, just mentioning those cause people act like Brock is incapable of longer matches, when he was in them not that long ago. Plus, seems like coli dudes don't know what a happy medium is. A 10 minute match would be perfect for Brock. Nothing needs to be 20 minutes, and I think the only people who keep referencing 20 minute matches are super anti-smark nerds who don't watch those types of matches anyway.
 

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I saw no issue with the match length or finish :manny: all a few minutes would've done is add more Germans and a kickout or two. Joe took the fight to Brock, who hit a flash F5 to win. It was a perfect length, it gave you just enough action to want more but didn't linger too long to overstay it's welcome.
 

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You're watching something else..she cried for the title wins and making history but everything else is just white boys online crying about someone who the fans demanded to be face. So I'm not buying any of that silly rhetoric that has no basis or truth to it...its dumb. Her whole entrance is heel based...

The way she clowned Charlotte and shytted on fans in like her last several interviews? Lol. Get real.

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uh....what does this have to do with me besides being white? She's a fully fledged face, breh. She's been one for a long time now. Cutting promos making fun of heel opponents is not heellike. Nor did I say her Talking Smack thing made her look like a heel or a face, I said it made her look like a whiny mark like literally everyone else who has cut a promo, worked or shoot, about "outsiders" making an impact in "their" industry.

Why are you still trying to pretend like she's 2015 NXT Sasha out there when she's just another face who dances and has fun?

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But deep down she's still a mean, arrogant heel, right? :mjgrin:
 

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She's not whiny though...thats just your perception. Bliss ran from a fight cowardly style and she called her out on it and elaborated on it on Raw talk. Why that has you in a frenzy is anyone's guess

Lol@showing Bayley's debut from months ago...wtf that has to do with her damn near shooting on Bliss and Charlotte.
 

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I won't even lie to ya'll

I fell asleep during Enzo's promo and woke up at like 2 in the morning and watched an old episode of Rick and Morty on Adult Swim.

And I feel like the R and M episode brought me far more satisfaction than this PPV would have
 
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I won't even lie to ya'll

I fell asleep during Enzo's promo and woke up at like 2 in the morning and watched an old episode of Rick and Morty on Adult Swim.

And I feel like the R and M episode brought be far more satisfaction than this PPV would have
U missed Bliss/Sasha and Braun having his Austin WM 13 MOMENT.
 

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She's not whiny though...thats just your perception. Bliss ran from a fight cowardly style and she called her out on it and elaborated on it on Raw talk. Why that has you in a frenzy is anyone's guess

Lol@showing Bayley's debut from months ago...wtf that has to do with her damn near shooting on Bliss and Charlotte.

She was whiny on Raw Talk. Also made her look like an idiot that she just sat there and watched Bliss get counted out instead of breaking the count. If she's the "best woman wrestler this company has ever seen" you'd think she'd have the ring awareness to break the count when she was right by the ref and just watching it go down.:yeshrug:

I just think the "you don't respect the business, I'm a real fan " is the corniest promo possible to cut regardless of script or if the person saying it is heel or face.
 

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I know, just mentioning those cause people act like Brock is incapable of longer matches, when he was in them not that long ago. Plus, seems like coli dudes don't know what a happy medium is. A 10 minute match would be perfect for Brock. Nothing needs to be 20 minutes, and I think the only people who keep referencing 20 minute matches are super anti-smark nerds who don't watch those types of matches anyway.

10 minute main events isn't wrestling.
 

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Watching the Big Cass promo right now. Holy hell its gonna be tough for this guy to get over without Enzo as his mouthpiece, all he ever says is 'I want da champion's hip, I want da Mania main event.'

Carmella could work but there's Miz/Maryse
 

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10 minute main events isn't wrestling.

It could be as long as you're going balls to the wall, or have some sort of stipulation. No need to have some super story-telling match where you're setting up the first 8 minutes with chin-locks and arm-drags just to go another 15 minutes at another gear, especially with Brock/Joe. Could have had a stiff, hard-hitting 10 minute match with Brock/Joe instead of a what we got last night.
 
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