7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

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R=G said:
He kept saying Spence didn't fight nobody..needing ro prove himself. We've seen the Roy interviews a million times. He was definitely anti Spence. Walked it back in recent months but he said he needed to prove himself against Porter...he did...still gave him no credit. Crawford was fighting flakes and has beens that entire time too. Odd.
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Roy knew the truth and told the truth.. He didn't drink the pbc Propaganda Kool-aid and just wasn't impressed with the overrated overhyped opposition a 1 dimensional Errol Spence fought at 147.. that didn't make him anti-Spence
 
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patscorpio said:
Breadman,

Short and sweet: tell us what you saw in the fight. I'm already seeing people say it was the car crash why can't they just give the winner the credit. Errol didn't make any excuses he's a real dude and a class act I give him as many flowers as I give Crawford even if he lost. Another way to look at it is, the best fighters often have their true talent brought out of them against their best opponents. Errol's a real one, and so is Bud. People need to realize, the fanboy-like excuses they make and alternately the put downs they dole out and so on are partly responsible for why we don't get as many big fights like this as we should do.

Much respect

Bread’s Response: Ok I’ve always said that the reason why Errol’s stamina always looks so good is because he fights at the same rhythm and pace that he hits the pads and bag with. So his heart rate is never disrupted. So Crawford obviously studied his rhythm. He didn’t take long to adjust to it because he had it down pact. While Spence is praised for his sound fundamentals. His attack was predictable to Crawford. Errol steps with his jab. As you’re supposed to do but it didn’t have a variation. So Crawford stayed in the southpaw stance, put his rear/left glove on the right side of his face and caught Errol’s jab and jabbed back. Or feinted Errol and jabbed WITH him.

Errol rarely leads with a hook and he throws punches from the same set up. So Crawford was safe with that left hand on the right side of his face because he knew a jab or big left hand was coming and Errol rarely leads with a right HOOK.

Errol did hit Crawford. But he never hit him with anything he didn’t see because he punches from the same set up everytime. I saw Bud’s eyes locked in on Errol and Bud was able to lead and counter Errol. Once Bud established his jab he would beat Errol to the THOUGHT of the next exchange. Sometimes he would allow Errol to lead and counter. Other times he would jab Errol off of his attack. Then after the 4th round he started sneaking body shots in. He didn’t overly commit to the body but he sat the right ones in there to zap Errol. So now Errol is a state of chaos. If he leads, Crawford counters. If he jabs, Crawford outjabs him. If he waits, Crawford just picks him apart. Errol showed next level determination. That kid has no quit him whatsoever. But Crawford processed what was happening much faster. What happened to Errol would have broken 99% of fighters. Errol was never broken and continued to try to win until the end….

Errol really doesn’t apply head movement. He blocks punches he steps away from them. Crawford favors his right hand, so he threw several variations past Spence’s gloves like Ugas did. I bring this up because again, Errol doesn’t utilize a lot of head movement. I’m not knocking his defense but his defense consist of a high guard and using his feet. Crawford’s feet are more coordinated and Crawford throws whipping punches from so many angles that a defense like Errol's he can eat up.


Looking back Errol would have had to have Hagler’s chin and Pryor’s volume to overcome Crawford and maybe that wouldn’t have been enough…After the knockdown in the 7th, I saw Crawford take his time in the 8th. I don’t know why. Maybe because he felt Errol was still dangerous. People say he gave him a break. I don’t know what it was but I did notice Crawford’s aggression quelled in the 8th. In the 9th he attacked again and forced a stoppage.

In my lifetime I have seen about a dozen PERFECT fights. That was one of them. Incredible. Absolute. Perfect fight.

Mayweather vs Corrales, Bhop vs Tito, Barrera vs Hamed, Pacman vs Oscar, Duran vs Leonard 1, Leonard vs Duran II, Jones vs Toney, Toney vs Barkley, Sanchez vs Gomez, Whitaker vs Ramirez, Chavez vs Rosario, Usyk vs Gassiev, McGirt vs Brown, Inoue vs Fulton. No we have Crawford vs Spence. That’s how good of a performance that was.
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UpAndComing said:



Spence fanboys are going crazy on Youtube :dead: . The host was trying to talk him off a ledge


- "Yeah I think I'm done with Boxing"
- "This fight made me think damn do I know shyt about Boxing. I'll take it one further, I don't know shyt about nothing"
- "I'm gonna be a fan and take up a different sport now"

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This shyt was funny as hell. Dude need his own podcast.
 
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TheNig said:
Not saying you're lying because Roy talks a lot. I've just never seen him shyt on Spence.

But again, how is it any different then what Crawford has had to deal with since his debut? He just took it in stride and now he is where he is.
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Crawford been called p4p #1 for the last few years off of really fighting like half regulated chumps...it's odd to me. Great skills
Black_Jesus said:
Roy knew the truth and told the truth.. He didn't drink the pbc Propaganda Kool-aid and just wasn't impressed with the overrated overhyped opposition a 1 dimensional Errol Spence fought at 147.. that didn't make him anti-Spence
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What propaganda? He went through the whole fukking Welter line up except Thurman. Kool aid? Crawford had fought goofballs who don't even like to box anymore..quit and went into hiding. Mean Machine still haven't beaten one credible name...lol
 
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R=G said:
Crawford been called p4p #1 for the last few years off of really fighting like half regulated chumps...it's odd to me. Great skills

What propaganda? He went through the whole fukking Welter line up except Thurman. Kool aid? Crawford had fought goofball who don't even lime to box anymore..quit and went into hiding. Mean Machine still haven't beaten one credible name...lol
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Yea you were brainwashed into believing all that dumb shyt you just posted. Brainwashed into believinganythingwas special about Errol opposition.. thats why Errol was Bud's EASIEST fight at 147 and that's why you confused and everything about it is "odd" to you :mjlol: Don't feel bad you weren't the only one
 
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Coming into the fight I felt that Crawford would outbox and just overall out slick Spence to a decision.

I saw Spence coming forward and giving Crawford many opportunities to score.

Couldn't conceive it would go the way it did. If anything I though Spence could hurt Crawford if he was able to catch him somehow. But I knew Crawford was a dog deep down.

I didn't think Spence look right after the weigh-in. I felt that his body had outgrown 147.

Is there any legitimacy to Spence being compromised in some way coming into the fight? Weight or car accident?
 
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Black Ball said:
Coming into the fight I felt that Crawford would outbox and just overall out slick Spence to a decision.

I saw Spence coming forward and giving Crawford many opportunities to score.

Couldn't conceive it would go the way it did. If anything I though Spence could hurt Crawford if he was able to catch him somehow. But I knew Crawford was a dog deep down.

I didn't think Spence look right after the weigh-in. I felt that his body had outgrown 147.

Is there any legitimacy to Spence being compromised in some way coming into the fight? Weight or car accident?
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There's no legitimacy whatsoever.. just false rumors spread around by people who just cant accept being wrong.. Spence has never been some huge puncher where he can catch you and the fights over.. all his fights even before the accident were won by him applying pressure and landing an ACCUMULATION of punches.. He never had a chance against someone as strong and crafty as Crawford
 
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Big Boss said:
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What Usyk did to Gassiev (and I had picked Gassiev :beli:) was what we saw last Saturday. I have to run that scrap back again



till the day I die i'll forever give @patscorpio props for putting The Ring on the CW division and telling us the WBSS CW would give the most fades and he was 100% spot on
 
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