7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

[TheNig]

Man if I had just got into boxing and checked this thread ya'll cats would have me thinking Crawford created boxing, unbelievable Dude is great but not the invincible/bullet proof/no weakness cat yall make him out to be

This is so fukking disingenuous. You picked Spence. Spence lost and Crawford fans are happy their guy won. That's all it is.

 

[reservoirdogs]

they are caught in the moment…it’s typical for the Coli. Right now in their heads Crawford could beat Floyd.

It happens after every big fight.

Well if someone beats him at 147 from the last 20 years it’s Bud, ain’t no recency bias in that.

Ppl used to Floyd being so dominant that saying someone would beat him sounds blasphemous to some.
I agree that ppl tend to get caught up in the moment but I also think it’s fair if someone says Bud would win after the Spence fight. Destroying an unbeaten top 5 P4P guy who even had a better resume at 147 than Bud. I mean… if that’s not enough to question how a Floyd fight would play out then what would be…?

 

[JamesJabdi]

The performance bud put on is a star making performance....but him being 36 and trying to make other megafights might be out of reach. It seems like he too late to the party. A Keith Thurman fight? maybe 5 years ago...alot of the dudes he could make a big fight with either seem to be going into retirement or are on their final stretch....who knows where his popularity would have been if he made the right moves at an earlier age he obviously got the talent.

thats why you can't compare him to Floyd....Floyd was so unbeatable that the whole world tuned in just to see him lose but he kept beating great fighter after great fighter....its diffrent

 

[klientel]

Well if someone beats him at 147 from the last 20 years it’s Bud, ain’t no recency bias in that.

Ppl used to Floyd being so dominant that saying someone would beat him sounds blasphemous to some.
I agree that ppl tend to get caught up in the moment but I also think it’s fair if someone says Bud would win after the Spence fight. Destroying an unbeaten top 5 P4P guy who even had a better resume at 147 than Bud. I mean… if that’s not enough to question how a Floyd fight would play out then what would be…?

It would have been no doubt a great fight and went to decision most likely, but Floyd wins that 100% of the time IMO. Bud landed 60% of his power punches on Spence, that number is probably something like 15% on Floyd. Damn near nothing you saw in that Spence fight would have come close to working on Floyd, it would have been a different fight entirely.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Well for 1.. Floyd would've avoided Terrance Crawford like the plague .. since he won a slim decision vs Oscar, Floyd made sure to stay clear of any fighters with longer reach than him.. ex.(P.Will, Margarito).

 

[threattonature]

The performance bud put on is a star making performance....but him being 36 and trying to make other megafights might be out of reach. It seems like he too late to the party. A Keith Thurman fight? maybe 5 years ago...alot of the dudes he could make a big fight with either seem to be going into retirement or are on their final stretch....who knows where his popularity would have been if he made the right moves at an earlier age he obviously got the talent.

thats why you can't compare him to Floyd....Floyd was so unbeatable that the whole world tuned in just to see him lose but he kept beating great fighter after great fighter....its diffrent

I’ve said before Bud should’ve done like Floyd and took control of his career earlier. Either take the financial hit to get a big fight made just so his talent went on display to a larger audience. Not sure if the Manny fight was an option if he was willing to take a smaller cut.

That’s the thing I hate about matchmaking and Al the promotional BS. Great talents and performances like Crawford’s in huge fight is what gets people buzzing and grows the sport. But instead of it happening early in guys careers it happens when they’re damn near 30 or later.

 

[UpAndComing]

@((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL
@desjardins

Now this is the part of the thread where people start trying to line up people they think that can beat Bud

"Ummm..yeah Boots can beat him !!!"

"Keith Thurman can give him a test!! "
"Well... how about Charlo?!?! "

 

[surv2syn]

Well if someone beats him at 147 from the last 20 years it’s Bud, ain’t no recency bias in that.

Ppl used to Floyd being so dominant that saying someone would beat him sounds blasphemous to some.
I agree that ppl tend to get caught up in the moment but I also think it’s fair if someone says Bud would win after the Spence fight. Destroying an unbeaten top 5 P4P guy who even had a better resume at 147 than Bud. I mean… if that’s not enough to question how a Floyd fight would play out then what would be…?

Dap. Anybody that saw what Mosley did to that version of Floyd is dumb as hell to think if Bud was in that same position he wouldn’t beat Floyd. SSM was past prime and Floyd came back on him hard. Aint no coming back hard on Bud like that. His defense and movement too good. SSM defense wasnt that good and I don’t think his stamina was great either. Plus Bud accuracy and power too precise. Bud was a whole other level than Mosley and Zab. Y’all need to put things in perspective. At 135 Floyd would beat him though. 135 Floyd was better.

 

[surv2syn]

It would have been no doubt a great fight and went to decision most likely, but Floyd wins that 100% of the time IMO. Bud landed 60% of his power punches on Spence, that number is probably something like 15% on Floyd. Damn near nothing you saw in that Spence fight would have come close to working on Floyd, it would have been a different fight entirely.

You damn right would’ve been different. Y’all don’t know shyt about boxing obviously. 15%? Gtfoh. Just like Bud never fought a guy like Floyd, likewise for his ass. They are so similar it would almost be like looking in a mirror. The difference Floyd is more defensive where Bud sits down on his punches so he is easier to hit. Early Bud didn’t get hit if he didn’t want you to but that version wasn’t a destroyer like at 147. Bud is a whole level above the Zab or Mosley that May faced

 

[NormanConnors]

This is so fukking disingenuous. You picked Spence. Spence lost and Crawford fans are happy their guy won. That's all it is.

Nah its more than that, but If that's what YOU see then go ahead cook and breh.

 

[klientel]

You damn right would’ve been different. Y’all don’t know shyt about boxing obviously. 15%? Gtfoh. Just like Bud never fought a guy like Floyd, likewise for his ass. They are so similar it would almost be like looking in a mirror. The difference Floyd is more defensive where Bud sits down on his punches so he is easier to hit. Early Bud didn’t get hit if he didn’t want you to but that version wasn’t a destroyer like at 147. Bud is a whole level above the Zab or Mosley that May faced

Lmao so now Bud bustin Floyd ass too.

thecoli.com

 

[surv2syn]

Well for 1.. Floyd would've avoided Terrance Crawford like the plague .. since he won a slim decision vs Oscar, Floyd made sure to stay clear of any fighters with longer reach than him.. ex.(P.Will, Margarito).

And he had problems with SSM WHO IS ALMOST IDENTICAL in height and reach to Bud. Remember a Floyd vs Mosley fight could have been made at 135. Why it never happened? At the time I thought it was Mosley but later I wasn’t so sure.

 

[surv2syn]

Lmao so now Bud bustin Floyd ass too.

thecoli.com

Foh with that dikkridin bs talkin bout Floyd beats this version of Bud 100% of the time. 33 year old welterweight Floyd? Somebody neg this fool.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

I’ve said before Bud should’ve done like Floyd and took control of his career earlier. Either take the financial hit to get a big fight made just so his talent went on display to a larger audience. Not sure if the Manny fight was an option if he was willing to take a smaller cut.

That’s the thing I hate about matchmaking and Al the promotional BS. Great talents and performances like Crawford’s in huge fight is what gets people buzzing and grows the sport. But instead of it happening early in guys careers it happens when they’re damn near 30 or later.

Bud handled his career perfectly fine. When you talk about Spence ducking bud All these PBC stans always say "well then he shouldn't have re-signed with top rank"


And why not?.....he was getting paid more money at top rank than any of them dudes at PBC were getting paid. By far. them guys were getting 1-2 mil for the biggest fights of their lives. While bud was making 5 mil for fights against amir Khan and Kell brook. He was running bobs pockets over there. Something all the PBC guys never had the guts to do with Al haymon. They just took whatever chump change they were offered with a smile on their face.

Maybe people shouldn't be asking why bud signed with top tank and be asking why PBC tried to create a monopoly on the entire sport. Even when bud finally left top rank, PBC tried to give him a bullshyt deal like they do everybody else and Bud told them to eat a dikk. He exposed them for all their bullshyt and let em know he's not gonna fall in line like everybody else. And guess what. He walked away with a 20 mil guarantee. Not only that. He even got Errol Spence a 20 mil guarantee. By sticking to his guns and refusing to bend the knee. Bud been had control of his career. That's why he's better off than PBC's whole roster right now.

But it's all good. Cause karma gets everybody in the end. Cause he's on top of the world now. Went into their turf and brutally exposed their best fighter. And then topped it off by getting on the mic and directly shytting on PBC for blackballing him on their own network. King shyt

 

[surv2syn]

Thurman talking shyt, Bud will murder his ass. That dude was lucky PAC didn’t have any stamina