7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

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oh no...i was talking about...i kept on mentioning...make no mistake crawford did his thing but me and @Knicksman20 kept talking about something wasnt right about spence...how he was glitching in the ugas and garcia fights etc etc..that is literally the reason why i picked crawford to knock spence out
Exactly! You were the first to mention it in the forum during/after the Garcia fight. I seconded it because I thought the same watching the fight that something was off. Even the way he was reacting to punches seemed off back then
 

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I saw the Twitter videos were posted but here is the full video on YouTube. This guy isn't Spence's doctor, but everything he is saying makes sense. When he said "I've never seen Crawford look that good" I knew exactly what he meant. Crawford is great, probably could and would have won anyway (though imo we will never know) but Spence was damaged goods coming into this fight. I am glad someone who knows what they're talking about has commented on this, and hopefully the dumb motherfukkers who aren't listening to what's amounting to close to a consensus of fans and boxers are saying about him will listen now and stop with the dumb ass gloating and Stan wars.
 

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I saw the Twitter videos were posted but here is the full video on YouTube. This guy isn't Spence's doctor, but everything he is saying makes sense. When he said "I've never seen Crawford look that good" I knew exactly what he meant. Crawford is great, probably could and would have won anyway (though imo we will never know) but Spence was damaged goods coming into this fight. I am glad someone who knows what they're talking about has commented on this, and hopefully the dumb motherfukkers who aren't listening to what's amounting to close to a consensus of fans and boxers are saying about him will listen now and stop with the dumb ass gloating and Stan wars.


So without a completed exam he was able to complete a diagnosis?

I'm not a medical physician. I'm a dentist. But the same rules apply. If you tell me your tooth hurts, I can't tell you what I have without a proper examination. If you tell me the symptoms, I can give you an idea. But I'm not about to outright say the tooth should be extracted without an exam. It's unethical.


I'm not saying he isn't fukked up but it's irresponsible as a medical professional to determine that without actually sitting down with the patient.
 

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So without a completed exam he was able to complete a diagnosis?

I'm not a medical physician. I'm a dentist. But the same rules apply. If you tell me your tooth hurts, I can't tell you what I have without a proper examination. If you tell me the symptoms, I can give you an idea. But I'm not about to outright say the tooth should be extracted without an exam. It's unethical.


I'm not saying he isn't fukked up but it's irresponsible as a medical professional to determine that without actually sitting down with the patient.
I always figured it was dangerous to talk like this if you don't have firsthand connection either.

You can actually put doubt in the people who do care for Spence, actually do know his medical history, actually have built a genuine relationship, etc. to get swapped out with some people who are in it for the clout/money grab.

Somebody like that going public brings more attention to their office, fans get real loud, make demands, etc. and disrupt the actual medical practices keeping Errol healthy knowing zero about Errol's medical history.

If that guy really cared and was concerned that much he'd reach out in private for example and go through the proper procedures there. Many doctors want that kind of exposure themselves.

If everyone else wants to give medical opinions, starts grinding your way through medical school.
 
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So without a completed exam he was able to complete a diagnosis?

I'm not a medical physician. I'm a dentist. But the same rules apply. If you tell me your tooth hurts, I can't tell you what I have without a proper examination. If you tell me the symptoms, I can give you an idea. But I'm not about to outright say the tooth should be extracted without an exam. It's unethical.


I'm not saying he isn't fukked up but it's irresponsible as a medical professional to determine that without actually sitting down with the patient.
I agree, we are all basing this on observation alone, but there is enough evidence and objective opinion out there from a good minority or majority of fans that something was not right with Errol Spence on Saturday and the evidence of something not being right goes back to the Garcia fight. I personally didn't see a different Errol Spence until the Ugas fight. Even though he dominated his balance was not there. Look at the shot before the shot that dislodged the mouth piece against Ugas. Again, NONE of this takes away from Terrence Crawford and his greatness. I am in no way trying to tarnish Bud. But I think the beat down was so shockingly brutal that most people have begun to question what the hell was going on for Spence for him to get steam rolled. I'm sorry, I don't care how great Terrence is, but even he doesn't steam roll REGULAR opponents like that, nevermind the 3 belt holding champion that some people said would beat him.
 

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So without a completed exam he was able to complete a diagnosis?

I'm not a medical physician. I'm a dentist. But the same rules apply. If you tell me your tooth hurts, I can't tell you what I have without a proper examination. If you tell me the symptoms, I can give you an idea. But I'm not about to outright say the tooth should be extracted without an exam. It's unethical.


I'm not saying he isn't fukked up but it's irresponsible as a medical professional to determine that without actually sitting down with the patient.
On top of that all these stans are assuming PBC didn't already connect him with the finest doctors and put him through extensive testing already. Muthafukkers really think they just let Errol walk back into action with no precautions. Makes zero sense. I'm sure he has access to the finest neurologist's money can buy.
 

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On top of that all these stans are assuming PBC didn't already connect him with the finest doctors and put him through extensive testing already. Muthafukkers really think they just let Errol walk back into action with no precautions. Makes zero sense. I'm sure he has access to the finest neurologist's money can buy.

HE JUST GOT HIS ASS BEATEN.

That's all there is to it :russ:
 

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On top of that all these stans are assuming PBC didn't already connect him with the finest doctors and put him through extensive testing already. Muthafukkers really think they just let Errol walk back into action with no precautions. Makes zero sense. I'm sure he has access to the finest neurologist's money can buy.

Fam this is boxing

These fighters have ego and pride.


Wilder wanted to die in the ring so bad he fire Mark Breland.

Roy Jones kept fighting when he been should have retired

And we know what happened to Ali at the end of his career
 
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