7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

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Y'all gotta stop posting this clown :mjlol: .....dude is the biggest cornball in boxing behind Andrade. Dude ran away from Spence for years. He's not serious about fighting bud. He's just pumping his chest for social media like always. Let bud step up for real and Keith will dive head first into an empty swimming pool. All he does is talk. Guy lost to a flabby and sick Manny Pacquiao. Bud will beat the brakes off him nasty.
Thurman wants a pay day, and with Bud's history of chasing a bag This is an easier pay day than Boots + can be his 154 test the water fight. Like I said WBC were willing to do Thurman vs Spence at 154 to satisfy the 147 Mando.

They can even do this fight I Omaha for low overhead (as a homecoming fight) + Thurman can carry the load when it comes to promo.

From an ROI standpoint it makes sense.
 

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Thurman wants a pay day, and with Bud's history of chasing a bag This is an easier pay day than Boots + can be his 154 test the water fight. Like I said WBC were willing to do Thurman vs Spence at 154 to satisfy the 147 Mando.

They can even do this fight I Omaha for low overhead (as a homecoming fight) + Thurman can carry the load when it comes to promo.

From an ROI standpoint it makes sense.
Oh don't get it twisted. I would love to watch Bud whoop Thurman's ass. But I just know Keith's not serious. He does this all the time. This his whole schtick now. He's pretty much just a full time boxing troll at this point. But stylistically it would be a fun fight. But Keith will never do it.
 

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When it comes to Boots we gotta be real, if Errol is cooked, PBC is betting the house on Boots, they aren't going to secrifice their potential 10 year Cash cow the same way TR wouldn't make Shakur fight a Bud equivalent (there isn't a good example) right now.

Boxing is a balancing act of Business ROI + Matchmaking + Legacy. Dudes be thinking all legacy and sometimes the shyt doesn't make sense business wise.
 

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Oh don't get it twisted. I would love to watch Bud whoop Thurman's ass. But I just know Keith's not serious. He does this all the time. This his whole schtick now. He's pretty much just a full time boxing troll at this point. But stylistically it would be a fun fight. But Keith will never do it.
Nah I can see them feeding Ugas to Boots now and elevating Thurman. Thurman is looking for a last pay day before moving 100% to an analyst role. I legit feel the Thurman Ugas fight wasn't announced because it was pending this weekends results.
 

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Thurman wants a pay day, and with Bud's history of chasing a bag This is an easier pay day than Boots + can be his 154 test the water fight. Like I said WBC were willing to do Thurman vs Spence at 154 to satisfy the 147 Mando.

They can even do this fight I Omaha for low overhead (as a homecoming fight) + Thurman can carry the load when it comes to promo.

From an ROI standpoint it makes sense.
thurman has no belts, doubt it happens for that reason… that nikka bud wants charlo bad
 

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In all seriousness. I'm worried about errols mental health right now. I hope he got a strong support system around him. Cause one thing I know about him is that he pays attention to EVERYTHING on social media. He watches every video. He reads all the comments. And that's just not good for your mental health. Even when you're winning. But especially when you suffer a defeat like this.

Hopefully he can leave the phone down and just be with his family and chill on his ranch. Don't even focus on anything boxing related. Stay off social media. And just accept Saturday night for what it was and move forward. I've always had high respect for Spence as a man. Honestly could be the most humble fighter in the sport.
 

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thurman has no belts, doubt it happens for that reason… that nikka bud wants charlo bad
WBC cooked the rankings last yr and made Thurman a Mando in order to do the Spence fight when the Bud fight feel through.

Technically Cody Crowley is supposed to be the Mando, but they were about to cook up Thurman vs Ugas via the WBC path
 

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Timothy Bradley saying "don't do it" @3:00 dude basically saw this guy was different :wow:

Great to hear Lampley's commentary here as well, very great breakdown.
Good point bout Crawford dang near always being the underdog his whole career and how that can actually be an advantage.
Another good point many of us here said, Errol needs a break and some easier fights before being rushed into a rematch.
 
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i hear ya but im saying this respectfully can you expound further on what that means :ohhh:

all i know is if errol declines the rematch then we either getting:

1. bud defense against stanionis (he comes before boots)
2. bud move up to 154 to challenge charlo (if charlo loses)

we’ll find out after september
If Spence won, there'd be more clarity going forward and a chance at better fights immediately happening.

I'll use One Punch Man (Stanionis) for an example. If Spence won, be elevated to WBA champ since Errol would be moving up to 154. With Bud winning, One Punch Man stays interim champ and he's going to try and angle to a fight with Bud. He has a voluntary defense, so he can choose who he wants in his next. He could easily fight Thurman (who's ranked #3 in the WBA) and that would be a very good fight. But there's no way he takes that fight if there's a chance he can get the Bud fight.

Same thing with Ugas in the WBC. He's gonna fight Mario Barrios for the interim title, then sit on it and wait around for a chance to fight Bud like he did with Spence :francis:
 

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WBC cooked the rankings last yr and made Thurman a Mando in order to do the Spence fight when the Bud fight feel through.

Technically Cody Crowley is supposed to be the Mando, but they were about to cook up Thurman vs Ugas via the WBC path
Mauricio Sulaiman did an interview with my homie Broadway Joel, and he said Ugas vs Mario Barrios will be ordered for the WBC interim title next
 

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Mauricio Sulaiman did in interview with my homie Broadway Joel, and he said Ugas vs Mario Barrios will be ordered for the WBC interim title next
wow they coulda at least did Ugas vs Crowly. Get Barrios the fukk outta here or do Boots vs Barrios, and give Stanoius a touch up since Ortiz fukked him, a then winners fight in spring
 
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