7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

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Apollo Creed

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Why are you Spence stans so sensitive :mjlol: .....thats why Spence had no rebuttal to buds comments. Cause he knows he told bud to his face he was gonna take the easy road. All them PBC dudes ducked crawford. He was calling em all out even before he got to 147 and they all said he was on the "wrong side of the street"....those are just the facts.

But it don't even matter anymore. Cause next month bud is gonna prove who's the best once and for all. At least bud fans can admit his flaws though. You Spence stans really act like dude is a perfect fighter. Straight delusional:mjlol:
nikka said rebuttal.

Spence had the energy of a nikka who is finna retire somebody after an ass beating
 

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how do you force unifications on the other side of the street?
I'll wait



icing a fighter out means blocking them from fights with in house politics.
is that not literally what Errol said he would do when Crawford ASKED TO FIGHT HIM?
far as other options (ie: belt holders) see above

So he fought Porter (signed to PBC) and they made Fury (Top Rank) vs Wilder (PBC) but yall keep running the same narratives about them blocking him from fights?

If you and Crawford truly believe that then why tf did he resign with Top Rank? If it was PBC blocking fights then why did Crawford sue Arum saying that it was Arum that didn’t make the fight happen?

I'll wait…
 

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So he fought Porter (signed to PBC) and they made Fury (Top Rank) vs Wilder (PBC) but yall keep running the same narratives about them blocking him from fights?

If you and Crawford truly believe that then why tf did he resign with Top Rank? If it was PBC blocking fights then why did Crawford sue Arum saying that it was Arum that didn’t make the fight happen?

I'll wait…
Porter was cashed out against Crawford. The risk/reward probably made sense since he ain't really a profitable asset like that and it was an opportunity for him to get a belt in the best case or just retire anyway in the worst case. If you remember PBC had NO money at stake for that fight. They sent Porter off to be retired , got their cut and moved on. Basically the definition of cashing out on a fighter you have no intentions of investing in anymore

Why Wilder sought out Fury when he did has been well discussed on here. Also I'm not arguing that PBC never fight TR guys, I'm talking about Crawford situation specifically

He suing Arum cause Arum didn't deliver on a promise he made contractually. That's not mutually exclusive of PBC avoiding the fight. The clause is evidence that fighting Spence was a condition of him resigning with TR in fact :what: . absolves Crawford of any ducking and at least to some degree shows that Arum was at least optimistic about making the fight since as you noted PBC and TR have worked together multiple times.....



Now can you explain what PBC made up the term "side of the street" when it came to a Spence/Bud fight
Why they postponed this fight for a year and half for no discernible reason
Why they lied on camera about paying ppl guarantees or this being a fight that no one will buy
Why, according to the Steven A interview, Spence had to shelve himself to FORCE pbc to make this fight?

i'll wait :dead:
 

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Porter was cashed out against Crawford. The risk/reward probably made sense since he ain't really a profitable asset like that and it was an opportunity for him to get a belt in the best case or just retire anyway in the worst case. If you remember PBC had NO money at stake for that fight. They sent Porter off to be retired , got their cut and moved on. Basically the definition of cashing out on a fighter you have no intentions of investing in anymore

Why Wilder sought out Fury when he did has been well discussed on here. Also I'm not arguing that PBC never fight TR guys, I'm talking about Crawford situation specifically

He suing Arum cause Arum didn't deliver on a promise he made contractually. That's not mutually exclusive of PBC avoiding the fight. The clause is evidence that fighting Spence was a condition of him resigning with TR in fact :what: . absolves Crawford of any ducking and at least to some degree shows that Arum was at least optimistic about making the fight since as you noted PBC and TR have worked together multiple times.....



Now can you explain what PBC made up the term "side of the street" when it came to a Spence/Bud fight
Why they postponed this fight for a year and half for no discernible reason
Why they lied on camera about paying ppl guarantees or this being a fight that no one will buy
Why, according to the Steven A interview, Spence had to shelve himself to FORCE pbc to make this fight?

i'll wait :dead:

The fight is happening and you still think Spence ducked him when he hasn’t fought in over a year trying to make it happen.

He always said from the start that he was going to go get the other belts and then he was coming to take the belt from Bud which he is doing.

Nothing has changed on Spence’s end. Bud was the one who accepted another fight in the middle of negotiations. :what:
 

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The fight is happening and you still think Spence ducked him when he hasn’t fought in over a year trying to make it happen.
Reread my reply I'm not blaming Spence. He's the primary reason why this fight is even happening since it looks like PBC had no intentions of making it otherwise. The easy route comments were sus but that was like 5 yrs ago when he probably had way less leverage to move in his career so that's whatever.
 

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Aight that's the last time I'll address PBC avoiding Crawford :hubie:


Four minutes later….



Reread my reply I'm not blaming Spence. He's the primary reason why this fight is even happening since it looks like PBC had no intentions of making it otherwise. The easy route comments were sus but that was like 5 yrs ago when he probably had way less leverage to move in his career so that's whatever.
 

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I was rewatching Crawford vs Horn and Crawford still had his 140ish size cause when you look at his last fight, and granted it’s been like 5 years since then, he looked primed for 154 size wise vs Avanesyan.
 

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i got a plane ticket so i'll be there that weekend for sure. pretty much got a room locked in also but man they wilding on them fight tickets. hopefully they drop but if they don't, i'll still be in the city and catch it maybe at a viewing party, i do really want to be in the arena for it though. we'll see

i have pulled rabbits out of a hat before for fight tickets at good prices close to the fight date, but i think this one is in high demand, gonna be tough.

looking forward to this fight and style matchup.
 
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