6/19 PBC on SHO: Jermall Charlo vs Juan Montiel (WBC Middleweight Title)

Who wins?

  • Charlo by KO

    Votes: 15 53.6%
  • Montiel by KO

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • Charlo by decision

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • Montiel by decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Charlo is a pathetic champion

    Votes: 9 32.1%

  • Total voters
    28

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I think if Jermell was the one that moved up and Jermall stayed they would be pretty much exactly where they are now just in reverse. Don't think that it's much up to Charlo that he doesn't have Golovkin on his resume. I didn't like how he talked down on an Andrade fight though like Andrade backing out of a fight with Jermell like 10 years ago over some money issues would be something unforgivable.

Jermall is still better imo but fair enough if you think otherwise. Jermall looks to me more consistent throughout fights and has a better jab. But Jermell is a very good fighter by his own right too.

Jermall's 160 run has been unfortunate though I think his last win was impressive and he beat Derevyanchenko better than Golovkin or Jacobs. Let's hope he can fight a top guy next.
 

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I think if Jermell was the one that moved up and Jermall stayed they would be pretty much exactly where they are now just in reverse. Don't think that it's much up to Charlo that he doesn't have Golovkin on his resume. I didn't like how he talked down on an Andrade fight though like Andrade backing out of a fight with Jermell like 10 years ago over some money issues would be something unforgivable.

Jermall is still better imo but fair enough if you think otherwise. Jermall looks to me more consistent throughout fights and has a better jab. But Jermell is a very good fighter by his own right too.

Jermall's 160 run has been unfortunate though I think his last win was impressive and he beat Derevyanchenko better than Golovkin or Jacobs. Let's hope he can fight a top guy next.
I always preferred Jermell and it seems like he started his love for the sport more early on. Actually think naturally he’s the better boxer of the two but he tries too hard for knockouts whereas Jermall recently has been showing more tools in his bag as he ain’t getting stoppages like that as of late. Jermell is definitely a Top 10 P4P guy and , undoubtedly Top 5 should he beat Castano and become undisputed at 154 imo.

Maybe it’s cause 154 on the PBC side of things is loaded and Big Charlo has no one to fight in PBC Middleweight Land. If he doesn’t get a GGG/Munguia/Andrade fight next , he Should definitely move up to 168. He has a lot of realistic options with respectable fighters not even counting Plant or CokeBoy Benavidez. Im tired of this dude fighting jobbers… and want to see him test himself to show how truly good he is.
 

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I always preferred Jermell and it seems like he started his love for the sport more early on. Actually think naturally he’s the better boxer of the two but he tries too hard for knockouts whereas Jermall recently has been showing more tools in his bag as he ain’t getting stoppages like that as of late. Jermell is definitely a Top 10 P4P guy and , undoubtedly Top 5 should he beat Castano and become undisputed at 154 imo.

Maybe it’s cause 154 on the PBC side of things is loaded and Big Charlo has no one to fight in PBC Middleweight Land. If he doesn’t get a GGG/Munguia/Andrade fight next , he Should definitely move up to 168. He has a lot of realistic options with respectable fighters not even counting Plant or CokeBoy Benavidez. Im tired of this dude fighting jobbers… and want to see him test himself to show how truly good he is.

idk how I feel about that, he could be P4P top 10, no problem if someone has him there but don't think it's that clear cut or that him being top 5 would be had he beat Castano.

Top 5 idk... Hard to argue him being over Canelo, Inoue, Spence, Taylor, Bud. Maybe Bud if you weigh resume over everything else but Bud's also in his third division already and beat all the good but not great fighters he fought dominantly, ha achievements like 2 division lineal and one division undisputed, he aces the eye test too.

Plus you have Lopez who knocked out Commey and beat Loma convincingly. So even with the Castano fight it would be hard to argue Chalo being top 5 imo but it would secure him a top 10 place for sure.

And I agree, Jermall needs to move up if his team can't secure him any of the big fights at 160, Canelo is at 168 too anyway. Charlo beats Benavidez imo, Plant would be a tough stye matchup but Plant has a bad conditioning while Charlo's is super.
 

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idk how I feel about that, he could be P4P top 10, no problem if someone has him there but don't think it's that clear cut or that him being top 5 would be had he beat Castano.

Top 5 idk... Hard to argue him being over Canelo, Inoue, Spence, Taylor, Bud. Maybe Bud if you weigh resume over everything else but Bud's also in his third division already and beat all the good but not great fighters he fought dominantly, ha achievements like 2 division lineal and one division undisputed, he aces the eye test too.

Plus you have Lopez who knocked out Commey and beat Loma convincingly. So even with the Castano fight it would be hard to argue Chalo being top 5 imo but it would secure him a top 10 place for sure.

And I agree, Jermall needs to move up if his team can't secure him any of the big fights at 160, Canelo is at 168 too anyway. Charlo beats Benavidez imo, Plant would be a tough stye matchup but Plant has a bad conditioning while Charlo's is super.
Forgot Usyk... depending if you still count his cruiserweight success he's either a surefire top 5 too or he's not in the top 10 at all.
 

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Showtime with that A1 production once again :wow:

The part about him marrying his high school sweetheart :mjcry:
This is why you rarely find quality women who are single past 30 years old. The real quality wifey material get snatched out the dating market in their early to mid-20s.
 

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Showtime with that A1 production once again :wow:

The part about him marrying his high school sweetheart :mjcry:
This is why you rarely find quality women who are single past 30 years old. The real quality wifey material get snatched out the dating market in their early to mid-20s.

if you want to build with someone then you gotta find them in undergrad or HS. Anything after that will purely be business
 

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if you want to build with someone then you gotta find them in undergrad or HS. Anything after that will purely be business
So you're telling me there's really no hope, huh. It's been many years removed from postgraduate studies, let alone undergrad or high school and I still aint been lucky :mjcry:
 

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So you're telling me there's really no hope, huh. It's been many years removed from postgraduate studies, let alone undergrad or high school and I still aint been lucky :mjcry:

Gotta dead the disney fantasy and accept life as is. Find a woman who is cooperative. You provide her with guidance and security and she blesses you with being the vehicle to continue your legacy. Through that your love grows. We confuse like with love and this is why divorce rates are crazy. There will be days you dont like your partner but legacy is bigger than temporary feelings.
 

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yeah Mell mentioned it in his recent ringside vid, more
so like how we think they cooler than they are and they dont even talk really, and he more so feels the people around Mall are the issue. You could see he was hurt from it


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