6/15 ESPN+: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz

[u mad son?]

Chris Areola
Stirvene
Braezelle
molina
washington
spillzka

AT LEAST THESE ARE REAL BOXERS WHO WERE RANKED AND KNOWN IN BOXING LMAO

You can't name any of Fury's opponents besides Wilder and Klistcho, thats it

I will give him Cunningham, but he was a goddamn CRUISERWEIGHT LMAO

You can say what you want about wilder's comp, but they were at least world level, Fury fought a bunch of europe level fighters, and Cunningham thats it
and he foughts a guy tonight he only FOUGHT IN GERMANY, he's not even on european level he is national lmao

are you fukking kidding me,

also stylistically Wilder was a good match up for Fury on paper and he still got figured out

yet Wilder fought two guys who are terrible matchups for his style in Ortiz and Fury

Ruiz is a bad match up for Fury because he won't be able to use those predictable tricks against an american trained boxer who is well versed in american boxing which is why Ruiz said he would whoop his ass because its true, yet he is hesitate about Wilder because he knows that right hand will touch him during the course of the fight

Lol . Wow.. These are bums my guy rankings don't mean shyt

You're talking about American trained boxing like its special but most of these guys came to UK and got smacked up with ease. The UK have the most talented boxers right now and when aj rematches ruiz and knocks him out in 3 u guys can sit down and shut up once again.

America has wilder and that's it and when fury beats him it's over for US

 

[Master Teacher]

He dominated Wilder with ease for the majority of the fight but got caught with 2 punches that put him down. He did back out of the immediate rematch that's true, but when he fought Wilder and beat him that was an unfit unhealthy Fury, taking that fight at the time in reality was outlandish, he was probably at around 50 percent yet he still beat Wilder to most. It's reasonable to want to fight others first to get in shape, I wouldn't have an issue with that, the problem I have with that is he should just come out and say it instead of bullshytting and lies blaming Wilder, because that wasn't his fault, he backed out of it not Wilder that time.

Wilder fights bums too, he's mostly fought bums his whole career, the only good victory on his record is Ortiz. So he doesn't really do any heavy lifting, he just cherry picks opponents he thinks are vulnerable. At least when he fights Tyson next time if he beats him it's a top level opposition he's beaten for a change.

Well, he will be fighting Wilder again in 2020...

He never dominated any part of the fight you moron, this why I can't take you c00ns serious

Look at the punch stats which are usually inflated numbers than the actually punches landed, EVERY ROUND WAS CLOSE, with Fury landed 1-2, which in reality, those punches probably did even hit Wilder and the round was even closer, every round was like that for the rounds Wilder knocked Fury down, which he would've won those rounds anyway without knock downs, those are the only rounds where the output was vastly on sided which was Fury to wilder who out landed Fury by a large margin

you talking out of your ass

domination is what Floyd did to gatti, what he did to Canelo, fukk outta here, Wilder didn't just land two lucky punches, those punches landed because of continued aggression and solving Fury's defense which what he was doing throughout the course of the fight

and why Fury did not go into an immediate rematch because wilder has the edge after already fighting him

 

[Master Teacher]

Lol . Wow.. These are bums my guy rankings don't mean shyt

You're talking about American trained boxing like its special but most of these guys came to UK and got smacked up with ease. The UK have the most talented boxers right now and when aj rematches ruiz and knocks him out in 3 u guys can sit down and shut up once again.

America has wilder and that's it and when fury beats him it's over for US

You are calling them bums BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE KNOWN

LOOK AT FURY'S RECORD, NOBODY HAS HEARD OF ANY OF THOSE THEY ARE TOM SHWARZ LMAO

Tom shwarz can't beat anyone of those guys I named

Stop with the double standards

It don't matter, Wilder will KO Fury in the rematch if it ever happens which is unlikely

 

[Columbo]

Some of you dont want to give Fury credit because your serving your own agenda instead of forming your opinions in good faith. He is the best all around heavyweight right now. And aside from the 2 knockdowns he did outbox Wilder

I dont have to call anyone a moron for disagreeing with me. Someone that resorts to insults isnt rational enough to even quote or mention. Whats best to do with these types of posters is to put them in ignore

 

[The Ruler 09]

He never dominated any part of the fight you moron, this why I can't take you c00ns serious

Look at the punch stats which are usually inflated numbers than the actually punches landed, EVERY ROUND WAS CLOSE, with Fury landed 1-2, which in reality, those punches probably did even hit Wilder and the round was even closer, every round was like that for the rounds Wilder knocked Fury down, which he would've won those rounds anyway without knock downs, those are the only rounds where the output was vastly on sided which was Fury to wilder who out landed Fury by a large margin

you talking out of your ass

domination is what Floyd did to gatti, what he did to Canelo, fukk outta here, Wilder didn't just land two lucky punches, those punches landed because of continued aggression and solving Fury's defense which what he was doing throughout the course of the fight

and why Fury did not go into an immediate rematch because wilder has the edge after already fighting him

I'm bored of you delusional dikkriders. Nearly everyone that knows boxing thought Fury won that fight, YOUR opinion is completely irrelevant.

 

[sportscribe]

Why is everyone talking about fighting bums when there are only a handful of really elite boxers in the division? You have to fight journeymen and tomato cans working your way up in the division. It's not like the welterweight division where there are champs and contenders everywhere.

 

[FreedMind]

won't work, he did with lomachenko, got espn dikk riding for years now, it won't work

How won't it work? He doesn't need to do it for years, he just needs 1 year. ESPN FOX PPV, the rematch gone do big numbers if everything keeps going to plan.

 

[FreedMind]

Why is everyone talking about fighting bums when there are only a handful of really elite boxers in the division? You have to fight journeymen and tomato cans working your way up in the division. It's not like the welterweight division where there are champs and contenders everywhere.

Just cause the division is thin doesn't mean Schwarz is more than a bum.

 

[sportscribe]

He never dominated any part of the fight you moron, this why I can't take you c00ns serious

That's where you're going wrong. You're making this a race thing.

If you are an objective fan, you'd know that Fury is the most skilled boxer in the division, and pretty clearly too. I'm picking Wilder in the rematch, and even I know he got outboxed in the first fight. I've also said many times I think Wilder would KO Joshua, and I'm a Nigerian.

 

[Master Teacher]

I'm bored of you delusional dikkriders. Nearly everyone that knows boxing thought Fury won that fight, YOUR opinion is completely irrelevant.

like who, He didn't win the fight, THATS YOUR OPINION

THE FIGHT WAS A DRAW, THAT IS FACT, you are the one trying to make your opinion fact

the point you can't even see how the scored a draw, shows you are delusional, and you listen to all the bias dikk riders in boxing media

and you can't even back up your opinions with facts that's why I can't respect you, you a dikk sucker

Its one thing if you said I felt Tyson Fury won, I can't argue with that, but the fact said he DOMINATED

RIDICULOUS

Can't respect period, because that just didn't happen and you can't even put forth evidence supporting that other baseless bias jargon

 

[sportscribe]

Just cause the division is thin doesn't mean Schwarz is more than a bum.

The fight was always gonna be a mismatch. I also think Fury intentionally ducked the Wilder rematch, or at least is drawing it out a bit.

I'm not talking about Fury specifically...I'm also refering to people saying Wilder just has nothing but bums on his resume.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

gypsy king

 

[The Ruler 09]

Why is everyone talking about fighting bums when there are only a handful of really elite boxers in the division? You have to fight journeymen and tomato cans working your way up in the division. It's not like the welterweight division where there are champs and contenders everywhere.

I don't think it's about being like 1 of the greatest of all time or anything, but has to be at least a quality fighter, AJ is a good example, he fought bums coming up in the pro ranks just like most people do, but then he stepped up and he fought Whyte, Breazeale, Martin, Wlad, Takam, Parker, Povetkin, I don't rate Breazeale or Martin but he did beat Whyte who's ranked number 1 now, Wlad who is an all time great, Povetkin who only had 1 loss to Wlad prior and was ranked highly at the time, Parker who was an undefeated champion etc.

These are some heavyweights that I think are credible and not bums currently, not all but a few...

Whyte, Rivas, AJ, Wilder, Fury, Parker, Povetkin, Usyk, Joyce, Dubois, Chisora, Miller, Ortiz, Hunter, Hrgovic, Hughie Fury, Pulev, Ruiz, I wouldn't consider any of those bums, on that list Fury has fought 2 of them, Wilder has fought 2 of them too, AJ has fought 4 of them in a lesser number of fights and offered 5 others of them the chance to fight him. That's why I respect AJ for at least be willing to fight anybody win, lose or draw.

There's a few others and some that are an unknown quantity at this stage too. Everyone fights bums coming up but there should be a stage if you're only fighting twice a year where it's competitive fights.

AJ's last 5 fights are..

Ruiz
Povetkin
Parker
Takam
Wlad

All good fighters, 1 legend in Wlad who came in in great shape, Ruiz who had 1 controversial loss who beat him, Povetkin who only had 1 loss at the time, a champion in Parker who was undefeated,

Fury's are..

Schwarz
Wilder
Pinaneta
Seferi
Wlad

That's 1 legend in Wlad, a great fighter in Wilder and then bums.

Wilder's is...

Breazeale
Fury
Ortiz
Stiverne
Washington

Now that's a good fighter in Ortiz but Ortiz doesn't have many great wins on his record. A 50 percent Fury they cherry picked who was unhealthy coming off a long layoff. And then fighters who aren't up to par.

From that list AJ has faced the best competition and that's just recently.

There's enough good fighters out there to create interesting matches, not every fight is going to be A plus vs A plus but sometimes instead of fighting a B some of these dudes fighting Z's who have no chance at all.

 

[KingOFKings]

Impressive win.

This is amazing for boxing.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Let's keep it real though

The only heavyweight fighters out here legitimately fighting tough opposition on a regular basis is AJ and Whyte

They gonna come top of this heavyweight shyt real soon trust me. Too many filler fights from both fury and wilder.. Bum city

Most of the division is bums and please Whyte fought Chisora twice. Chisora got beat but a Euro level prospect and people just swept it under the rug. Whyte is fighting guys either off a loss or trash. This is his second or third legit fight and he’s going to lose. AJ I agree with but he just got brutally stopped the first time he left his comfort zone. They both have been guided.