6/15 ESPN+: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz

[u mad son?]

He barely made it against Wilder alive, he ducked the immediate rematch for a reason

why can Tyson Fury fight bums while Wilder does heavy lifting against Ortiz and everybody is cool with it

like I said, Arum is the master of putting his fighters against bums and getting everyone to go along with it

Fury knows he barely escaped with Wilder, his wife don't want him to fight Wilder again does his family, which is why he is milking the game right now

Please tell me which fighters wilder fought that ain't bums beside fury and ortiz (pushing 50 and nearly lost too)

 

[patscorpio]

Yea For Real....









Fury has actually fought threats N decent opps :Lol88:

 

[Master Teacher]

You keep saying his movements are predictable but no one in a ring has out boxed him yet ...wve seen wilder get out boxed by fury and ortiz now and jus landed the lucky ko

He tasted the canvas twice against Wilder

if you are being dropped you are not out boxing anyone you fukking moron

if you are outboxing somebody you are in control of the fight, even if you had fury winning on points all the rounds were close, he out landed by 1-2 jabs lmao, people acting like he was putting some kind of devastating performance lmao

its ridiculous

The same shyt Fury was doing on the Ropes, he did against Wilder, but Wilder figured out his movements because he never switches up his rhythm that's how he got the first knock down

Ortiz is way more dangerous than Fury because he is a counter puncher, which is why Wilder barely threw any punches against him

 

[u mad son?]

Let's keep it real though

The only heavyweight fighters out here legitimately fighting tough opposition on a regular basis is AJ and Whyte

They gonna come top of this heavyweight shyt real soon trust me. Too many filler fights from both fury and wilder.. Bum city

 

[R=G]

 

[R=G]

Let's keep it real though

The only heavyweight fighters out here legitimately fighting tough opposition on a regular basis is AJ and Whyte

They gonna come top of this heavyweight shyt real soon trust me. Too many filler fights from both fury and wilder.. Bum city

Whyte? Lol

 

[R=G]

You keep saying his movements are predictable but no one in a ring has out boxed him yet ...wve seen wilder get out boxed by fury and ortiz now and jus landed the lucky ko

Lucky KO?.WTF...lol

 

[Master Teacher]

Please tell me which fighters wilder fought that ain't bums beside fury and ortiz (pushing 50 and nearly lost too)

Chris Areola
Stirvene
Braezelle
molina
washington
spillzka

AT LEAST THESE ARE REAL BOXERS WHO WERE RANKED AND KNOWN IN BOXING LMAO

You can't name any of Fury's opponents besides Wilder and Klistcho, thats it

I will give him Cunningham, but he was a goddamn CRUISERWEIGHT LMAO

You can say what you want about wilder's comp, but they were at least world level, Fury fought a bunch of europe level fighters, and Cunningham thats it
and he foughts a guy tonight he only FOUGHT IN GERMANY, he's not even on european level he is national lmao

are you fukking kidding me,

also stylistically Wilder was a good match up for Fury on paper and he still got figured out

yet Wilder fought two guys who are terrible matchups for his style in Ortiz and Fury

Ruiz is a bad match up for Fury because he won't be able to use those predictable tricks against an american trained boxer who is well versed in american boxing which is why Ruiz said he would whoop his ass because its true, yet he is hesitate about Wilder because he knows that right hand will touch him during the course of the fight

 

[u mad son?]

He tasted the canvas twice against Wilder

if you are being dropped you are not out boxing anyone you fukking moron

if you are outboxing somebody you are in control of the fight, even if you had fury winning on points all the rounds were close, he out landed by 1-2 jabs lmao, people acting like he was putting some kind of devastating performance lmao

its ridiculous

The same shyt Fury was doing on the Ropes, he did against Wilder, but Wilder figured out his movements because he never switches up his rhythm that's how he got the first knock down

Ortiz is way more dangerous than Fury because he is a counter puncher, which is why Wilder barely threw any punches against him

Two knock downs doesn't mean you

He tasted the canvas twice against Wilder

if you are being dropped you are not out boxing anyone you fukking moron

if you are outboxing somebody you are in control of the fight, even if you had fury winning on points all the rounds were close, he out landed by 1-2 jabs lmao, people acting like he was putting some kind of devastating performance lmao

its ridiculous

The same shyt Fury was doing on the Ropes, he did against Wilder, but Wilder figured out his movements because he never switches up his rhythm that's how he got the first knock down

Ortiz is way more dangerous than Fury because he is a counter puncher, which is why Wilder barely threw any punches against him

Fury was more accurate in all phases (26%-17% overall, 21%-16% jabs and 37%-17% power)

2 knock downs means two rounds lost, let's not forget what happened the rest of the fight

 

[The Ruler 09]

He barely made it against Wilder alive, he ducked the immediate rematch for a reason

why can Tyson Fury fight bums while Wilder does heavy lifting against Ortiz and everybody is cool with it

like I said, Arum is the master of putting his fighters against bums and getting everyone to go along with it

Fury knows he barely escaped with Wilder, his wife don't want him to fight Wilder again does his family, which is why he is milking the game right now

He dominated Wilder with ease for the majority of the fight but got caught with 2 punches that put him down. He did back out of the immediate rematch that's true, but when he fought Wilder and beat him that was an unfit unhealthy Fury, taking that fight at the time in reality was outlandish, he was probably at around 50 percent yet he still beat Wilder to most. It's reasonable to want to fight others first to get in shape, I wouldn't have an issue with that, the problem I have with that is he should just come out and say it instead of bullshytting and lies blaming Wilder, because that wasn't his fault, he backed out of it not Wilder that time.

Wilder fights bums too, he's mostly fought bums his whole career, the only good victory on his record is Ortiz. So he doesn't really do any heavy lifting, he just cherry picks opponents he thinks are vulnerable. At least when he fights Tyson next time if he beats him it's a top level opposition he's beaten for a change.

Well, he will be fighting Wilder again in 2020...

 

[sportscribe]

Fury has only beaten an old klistcho and a draw with Wilder, thats it, the rest of his resume is all bums, Ruiz has a better resume than him and he has american boxing pedigree, that shyt he doing will not work he do the same shyt his movements are predictable, and he's not use to fighting a short guy like Ruiz who get underneath his punches and throw combinations

Styles make fights...I think he keeps Ruiz at the end of his jab. Unlike AJ, Tyson also has good upper body and head movement. He would slip and throw shots on the back foot all night imo. Even if he gets on the inside, he will tie him up. Fury fights like a smaller fighter at times, but don't forget he's all of 6'9 and 260lbs. AJ on the other hand doesn't fight like a guy who's 6'6. He almost tends to come down to his opponents size, which is why he always gets clipped.

 

[Master Teacher]

Two knock downs doesn't mean you

Fury was more accurate in all phases (26%-17% overall, 21%-16% jabs and 37%-17% power)

2 knock downs means two rounds lost, let's not forget what happened the rest of the fight

Wilder made him missed just as much, Wilder just threw more do you know how percentages work you moron

I didn't say 2 knock downs means you lost, it means Wilder has 20 to 16 spread, and so you need to win 4 rounds to get it back to even lmao
so Wilder only needed two rounds to get a draw, which he easily got the first, because he landed the best the punch which is a jab to the body lmao, nothing else happened in the round significant

Boxing is scored by effective punching not volume

the UK judge had a draw lmao, his own country man, stop acting like you know boxing

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Thing with Wilder and Fury is either 1 could win, yes Fury is a much better boxer but Wilder is capable of knocking anybody out, all it takes is 1 shot to land. That's what makes it compelling, in my opinion any of the elites could be undisputed, Wilder, AJ or Fury because they all are capable, it just depends how they perform. At the moment Fury is probably looking like the best, especially since he beat Wilder in that first fight really when he wasn't really healthy. Would have to consider Ruiz if he wins the rematch, Usyk if he does well at heavyweight too. It should be interesting, Fury is probably the most skilled heavyweight but he isn't unbeatable, if you pressure him and land possible to knock him out, if you let him control shyt he will dominate with his skill. Whyte vs Fury could end up being interesting if it ever happened because Whyte would go in and try pressure, if he dispatches Whyte with ease that would be a statement, not gonna happen for a while yet though.

Good post

 

[The Ruler 09]

I think Tyson beats Ruiz kind of easily because of the reach and speed jabbing. But you never know when someone has the kind of heart Ruiz has...just remains to be seen.

True, all remains to be seen, but in my opinion Tyson beats Ruiz too, like I said Tyson wouldn't let him get close, he's got the best heavyweight boxing brain out of the current heavyweights. He's a tactician, he can box, if he had knockout 1 punch power he'd be 1 of the greatest heavyweights ever, that's the 1 element he lacks really. But makes it interesting, cause he's skilled but possible to be beaten too.

 

[True Blue Moon]

May as well have stopped it, dude had no chance, wasn't even fighting back, was just gonna take more punishment.

Yeah I'm never mad at those. It's the ref's job to protect health and lives and enforce the rules, not be a fan or keep things exciting. As soon as someone dies on their watch then they're the bad guy