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Cartier Murphy
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Something I like about his moveset is him incorporating moves of guys he’s faced or beaten into his moveset, like Minoru Suzuki’s Gotch Piledriver or the chokeholdMox with the submissionsgood match, good showing by Brodie Lee
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Watched the last three matches again earlier today...
The two title matches were really good, but suffered a lot from not having a crowd. Not much to really say about the women's title match, but I think it would have played much better, especially for the purposes of kicking off Shida's title run, if the crowd had been able to react to her selling and comebacks. Nyla Rose was actually starting to build a little momentum as champ, and it feels less like a hot babyface taking down a heel at her height, and more like a good heel title run being cut off before its natural endpoint. With that said, a well-worked match with a great ending.
The World Title match was a great ECW-style brawl (think, say, RVD vs. Bam Bam Bigelow crossed with a little bit of Awesome/Tanaka. If you were to call it an Attitude Era-style title match, you wouldn't be wrong either), which worked to both its advantage and disadvantage. On one hand, structuring a match like that makes it really easy to keep everything moving at a good pace, especially when you have two good/great workers and booking behind you (I like how they tried to protect Brodie by essentially booking him to be unstoppable and saying that Mox wouldn't have won if not for the Paradigm Shift on the ramp. I thought they might do a DQ instead), and they did a great job of packing a ton of shyt into about 16 minutes or so. On the other hand, those matches work best with super hot crowds, and doing them in an (essentially) empty arena runs the risk of making the whole match look ridiculous (this is compounded when you consider that the crowd is an essential part of Mox's act as well). Fortunately, Mox and Brodie are good enough workers to make everything look believable and plausible without tipping over into self-parody.
Stadium Stampede...man. Easily the best actual match of the "cinematic" matches we've seen in the pandemic era (the Firefly Fun House "match" is still a ways above this, but that wasn't an actual match). Looking past how utterly silly some of this was, I love that there was actual logic woven through the entire thing. There were some really great set pieces (with Hangman and Omega vs Hager in the bar being the best of them by quite a bit), the comedy derived from the character's tendencies and personalities as opposed to some old septuagenarian's whims (the difference between goofy yet bearable and unwatchable), and the booking of the match made complete sense. The Elite, the unit that's had a million different questions about their cohesiveness, beats the supposedly rock solid Inner Circle by drawing their opponents away from one another and using teamwork to take them down individually (Matt gets an assist from Kenny to take out Proud and Powerful in his own unique fashion, Hangman and Kenny have to team together to take downThe Terminator Hager, the Young Bucks take out top heel Jericho with superior tag team wrestling, and EVERYONE shyts on Sammy [again]). I would have loved to see this in WarGames, but I would argue having to shift to the Stadium Stampede was a blessing in disguise, since it works better with everyone's sensibilities as wrestlers.
Not everyone's going to like this, since it's at heart a deeply silly match. But it's probably more representative of the wrestling-as-live-anime aesthetic Omega's been pursuing for the last half-decade or so (maybe even since he got to DDT to begin with) than maybe any other match he's had that wasn't with Ibushi. Not everyone's going to like the extremely thin line between seriousness and comedy, the overly dramatic and exaggerated character portrayals, and the focus more on the rising and falling action of storytelling than on the tried and true components of wrestling psychology. Hell, I can't even get with it all the time (if those traits of Omega's match style sound familiar, it's because it's been a staple of the WWE's now-extremely-fukking-annoying big match style for years now), but the constant, chaotic action of the match helped anchor everything in some sense of believable conflict and combat, so it worked here.
I wouldn't want to see this be a yearly thing (as with the Firefly Fun House match working so well because it was Bray and Cena, this worked so well because it was these two exact teams. Be honest, would this have been improved in any way by swapping in Cody for Matt Hardy?), but with the right teams, this could be a very fun occasional gimmick match. The second cinematic match of this period I can call an unqualified success.
The two title matches were really good, but suffered a lot from not having a crowd. Not much to really say about the women's title match, but I think it would have played much better, especially for the purposes of kicking off Shida's title run, if the crowd had been able to react to her selling and comebacks. Nyla Rose was actually starting to build a little momentum as champ, and it feels less like a hot babyface taking down a heel at her height, and more like a good heel title run being cut off before its natural endpoint. With that said, a well-worked match with a great ending.
The World Title match was a great ECW-style brawl (think, say, RVD vs. Bam Bam Bigelow crossed with a little bit of Awesome/Tanaka. If you were to call it an Attitude Era-style title match, you wouldn't be wrong either), which worked to both its advantage and disadvantage. On one hand, structuring a match like that makes it really easy to keep everything moving at a good pace, especially when you have two good/great workers and booking behind you (I like how they tried to protect Brodie by essentially booking him to be unstoppable and saying that Mox wouldn't have won if not for the Paradigm Shift on the ramp. I thought they might do a DQ instead), and they did a great job of packing a ton of shyt into about 16 minutes or so. On the other hand, those matches work best with super hot crowds, and doing them in an (essentially) empty arena runs the risk of making the whole match look ridiculous (this is compounded when you consider that the crowd is an essential part of Mox's act as well). Fortunately, Mox and Brodie are good enough workers to make everything look believable and plausible without tipping over into self-parody.
Stadium Stampede...man. Easily the best actual match of the "cinematic" matches we've seen in the pandemic era (the Firefly Fun House "match" is still a ways above this, but that wasn't an actual match). Looking past how utterly silly some of this was, I love that there was actual logic woven through the entire thing. There were some really great set pieces (with Hangman and Omega vs Hager in the bar being the best of them by quite a bit), the comedy derived from the character's tendencies and personalities as opposed to some old septuagenarian's whims (the difference between goofy yet bearable and unwatchable), and the booking of the match made complete sense. The Elite, the unit that's had a million different questions about their cohesiveness, beats the supposedly rock solid Inner Circle by drawing their opponents away from one another and using teamwork to take them down individually (Matt gets an assist from Kenny to take out Proud and Powerful in his own unique fashion, Hangman and Kenny have to team together to take down
Not everyone's going to like this, since it's at heart a deeply silly match. But it's probably more representative of the wrestling-as-live-anime aesthetic Omega's been pursuing for the last half-decade or so (maybe even since he got to DDT to begin with) than maybe any other match he's had that wasn't with Ibushi. Not everyone's going to like the extremely thin line between seriousness and comedy, the overly dramatic and exaggerated character portrayals, and the focus more on the rising and falling action of storytelling than on the tried and true components of wrestling psychology. Hell, I can't even get with it all the time (if those traits of Omega's match style sound familiar, it's because it's been a staple of the WWE's now-extremely-fukking-annoying big match style for years now), but the constant, chaotic action of the match helped anchor everything in some sense of believable conflict and combat, so it worked here.
I wouldn't want to see this be a yearly thing (as with the Firefly Fun House match working so well because it was Bray and Cena, this worked so well because it was these two exact teams. Be honest, would this have been improved in any way by swapping in Cody for Matt Hardy?), but with the right teams, this could be a very fun occasional gimmick match. The second cinematic match of this period I can call an unqualified success.
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
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yep thats the problem.
@DaylitoJames , its not just because shes a transformer. its the fact that shes a big man who cant even be safe while lifting up women half his size.
at least nia jax is an actual woman. nyla up here fumbling with man strength.
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Peter Popoff
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Brian cage 
That last match was classic.
That last match was classic.
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