[5/21 - 6/7]NJPW Presents: Best of the Super Juniors XXIII

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Those kind of matches can really test your suspension of disbelief . I can accept the running towards the ropes , people being stunned for moves but those matches are like watching die hard and suddenly McClane jumps off the building flies away or something . Just too extra ... Having said that it was a good match

There was a Japanese six-man-tag years ago that made me feel like that, can't remember who was in it (the word Blood rings a bell) bur everyone was hyping it up as one of the best matches ever, but it came across as just high spot after high spot with no downtime whatsoever
 

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Day 6
Ricochet vs Will Ospreay


:whew:

Maximum Flippy shyt Acheived. Wouldn't have surprised me if one of those dudes had hit the

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mid match.

Might be one of the most vocal Japanese crowds I remember seeing for a minute outside WK. You could hear a pin drop in some of the other matches in this thread :leon:

Ospreay's adlibs though :mjlol:
 

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Theres room for all kinds of matches. That sequence at the start was dope imo. But the match also had some hard strikes.

At the end of the day, if the crowd likes it then it's a good match :manny:
 

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-Finally watched Ricochet/Ospreay. Good match and the crowd was really feeling it.

-I thought Liger/Volador jr was really good too. Crazy Liger is the same age as Taker but I never really get the "when u gonna retire?" feeling when he's out there.

-I like that YOSHI-HASHI is actually showing a pulse out there. Usually he's just :ehh:from an emotional standpoint. I'm actually interested in when he and Sanada actually go one on one.

-Can Yoshytatsu please stop cosplaying HHH:ld:
 

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NJPW Best of the Super Juniors Standings - Night 6 (May 27) -
A Block

  • Kyle O’Reilly – 6 points (3-0)
  • Ryusuke Taguchi – 6 points (3-0)
  • Rocky Romero – 4 points (2-1)
  • Matt Sydal – 4 points (2-1)
  • Gedo – 2 points (1-2)
  • IWGP Jr. Hvt. champion KUSHIDA – 2 points (1-2)
  • BUSHI – 0 points (0-3)
  • David Finlay – 0 points (0-3)
B Block

  • Jushin Liger – 4 points (2-1)
  • Ricochet – 4 points (2-1)
  • Trent Baretta – 4 points (2-1)
  • Volador, Jr. – 4 points (2-1)
  • Chase Owens – 2 points (1-2)
  • Bobby Fish – 2 points (1-2)
  • Will Ospreay – 2 points (1-2)
  • Tiger Mask IV – 2 points (1-2)
 
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Hold the fukk up.....

Did people watch the same Kushida vs. O'Reilly match that I just watched? :dwillhuh:


How are people not jumping head over heels for this as a match of the year candidate?:mindblown:


That was utterly amazing. I thought that their big match last year was 5 stars and possible match of the year. Judged purely on in-ring action, I think they just topped it.

Am I going crazy? Why is no one else saying this? :dahell:

I'm not sure I can give it 5 stars simply because of the lack of "big match" feel and the crowd wasn't super hot, but it was 4 3/4 stars at minimum

Someone please tell me why I'm wrong:jbhmm:
 

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Hold the fukk up.....

Did people watch the same Kushida vs. O'Reilly match that I just watched? :dwillhuh:


How are people not jumping head over heels for this as a match of the year candidate?:mindblown:


That was utterly amazing. I thought that their big match last year was 5 stars and possible match of the year. Judged purely on in-ring action, I think they just topped it.

Am I going crazy? Why is no one else saying this? :dahell:

I'm not sure I can give it 5 stars simply because of the lack of "big match" feel and the crowd wasn't super hot, but it was 4 3/4 stars at minimum

Someone please tell me why I'm wrong:jbhmm:

If you loved the match that much I don't think there's anything that is going to change your mid. You are either gonna dismiss any flaw that will be pointed out or just say it didn't bothered you. There's nothing wrong with that though. It's like when I'm on an island praising Big Japan matches :heh:

Still, there's two ways to look at it imo.

The first is the style criticism. They spent half the match working and fukking destroying each others body parts, and it didn't mean jack shyt. O'Reilly obliterated Kushida's leg and never once was it sold in a way that even hurt Kushida to pull off a move, reversal or kick, same with Kyle's arm. A lot of neat reversals and interesting work that lead to nowhere. They also didn't let anything breathe, every time someone went to work on a body part, the other guy had to immediately respond, so there wasn't a real worker over section or a comeback that gave the match more depth and pace. At the end of the match I didn't really care who won. This is easy to argue with because if you like the style then pretty much everything I just wrote doesn't bother you or isn't seen as a big deal, and that's fine, but I didn't see anything worth high praise. It was a cool Juniors match and nothing else.

Now, why it didn't even looked like a great junior's match? To me, nothing they did was "holy shyt this is awesome" worthy. It had a bunch of well executed moves and cool reversals but those didn't stand out from any other match involving two good wrestlers. And they action was kind of all over the place switching back and forth between chain wrestling, to working body parts, to striking to big moves. It was too long too.

This maybe sounds like I thought the match was garbage but not really. I thought it was a good match but nothing to write home about. Certainly not MOTYC level.

PS: The back-to-back rebound lariats was fukking cringe worthy, as bad as the one Dean Ambrose does and it meant absolutely nothing to the match :francis:
 
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