49 Chicago schools being closed, Activist go to U.N. - not Obama - for help

[newarkhiphop]

In actuality, the local communities need to created their own private schools and educate their kids. Relying on white America to educate their children is part of the problem IMHO.

if only it were that easy.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

if only it were that easy.

What are you talking about. They could form schools and get them accredited via the standard prcocesses. Many people "including Jalen Rose" has done the same thing in Detroit and he's getting results. Yes it takes effort, but if black people think marching or calling Sharpton is the answer then they will continue to be disappointed.

 

[newarkhiphop]

What are you talking about. They could form schools and get them accredited via the standard prcocesses. Many people "including Jalen Rose" has done the same thing in Detroit and he's getting results. Yes it takes effort, but if black people think marching or calling Sharpton is the answer then they will continue to be disappointed.

you think it works that way, just form them and get accredited, am not going to break down the whole process cause i have helped people look into it, but put this into perspective insurance/liability cost alone closes in the hundreds of thousand of dollars a year range


jalen rose? millionaire jalen rose right?

and am not trying to sound like a a$$hole one bit like i said me and a group of people personally tried looking into such a project and you get caught up in such a mountain of bureaucratic paperwork that you easily begin to see why inner city schools across this country are so fukked.

as an example , even when the NOI built there school in Chicago many years ago it took over a million dollar donation that came from gaddaffi.

a much better way to go and what @theworldismine13 has always said is to use resource to encourage a culture of education in these communities

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

you think it works that way, just form them and get accredited, am not going to break down the whole process cause i have helped people look into it, but put this into perspective insurance/liability cost alone closes in the hundreds of thousand of dollars a year range


jalen rose? millionaire jalen rose right?

and am not trying to sound like a a$$hole one bit like i said me and a group of people personally tried looking into such a project and you get caught up in such a mountain of bureaucratic paperwork that you easily begining to see why inner city schools across this country are so fukked.

a much better way to go and what @theworldismine13 has always said is to use resource to encourage a culture of education in these communities

Dude, you sound like a helpless, defeatist negro. Its sad what slavery has done to the minds of the black community. You've already determined it will be too hard based on you pre-concieved notions of what you think has has to be done. I'm sure the leading educators in Chicago could come up with something viable if they put their minds to it.

Or you could always call Sharpton and have a march if you think this would be to hard...

 

[Serious]

caught up in such a mountain of bureaucratic paperwork that you easily begin to see why inner city schools across this country are so fukked.

great post, is it possible to elaborate more on this...

 

[newarkhiphop]

Dude, you sound like a helpless, defeatist negro. Its sad what slavery has done to the minds of the black community. You've already determined it will be too hard based on you pre-concieved notions of what you think has has to be done. I'm sure the leading educators in Chicago could come up with something viable if they put their minds to it.

Or you could always call Sharpton and have a march if you think this would be to hard...

am not a defeatist am just telling u the truth, don't you think the idea of opening up our own schools has been floated around before , why do you think most are only most very small "magnet" schools which usually fold or fail with 5 years of opening ?

here is my thing and a trend i have been noticing in the HL over the past couple of weeks, dudes are talkin about "we need to build this" we need to "start our own that"

NO

There is a perfectly fine infrastructure already in place in urban communities all across the country , what the community need is to actually start doing is being the people in charge of them

- more black teachers
- more black administrations at the schools
- more black superintendents
- curriculum tailored to our kids

i can go into detail why each of these is crucial if you wish

to put in perspective in the past 5 years i have worked directly in 4 schools and indirectly in over a dozen schools in Newark which has + 80% black population and each and every one of them over 70% of the teachers have been non black

 

[newarkhiphop]

great post, is it possible to elaborate more on this...

basically everything is a monopoly/bureaucracy when it comes to education

the type of books that are used in schools is determined by contracts with book makers/writers
the type of curriculum kids use to learn from is never based on teacher/student input
the type of foods kids eat at the school is based on city contracts
even the security/maintenance services are based with whats make sense $$$ not what is best for the children

i could go on and on about the but it gives me a headache to be honest , but like i said in my previous post the LESS political/financial power and influence you have in your district there will always be a direct correlation with how shytty your schools are , you can go head and build two dozen of your own schools but if you dont have 100% control over them its worthless

 

[Serious]

basically everything is a monopoly/bureaucracy when it comes to education

the type of books that are used in schools is determined by contracts with book makers/writers
the type of curriculum kids use to learn from is never based on teacher/student input
the type of foods kids eat at the school is based on city contracts
even the security/maintenance services are based with whats make sense $$$ not what is best for the children

i could go on and on about the but it gives me a headache to be honest , but like i said in my previous post the LESS political/financial power and influence you have in your district there will always be a direct correlation with how shytty your schools are , you can go head and build two dozen of your own schools but if you dont have 100% control over them its worthless

Interesting, I guess that makes sense, in essence it's like the prison / military industrial complex...

 

[newarkhiphop]

Interesting, I guess that makes sense, in essence it's like the prison / military industrial complex...

its worse than that , is preparation, its called the school to prison pipeline, and it almost scary

What is the School-to-Prison Pipeline?
Policies that encourage police presence at schools, harsh tactics including physical restraint, and automatic punishments that result in suspensions and out-of-class time are huge contributors to the pipeline, but the problem is more complex than that.

The school-to-prison pipeline starts (or is best avoided) in the classroom. When combined with zero-tolerance policies, a teacher’s decision to refer students for punishment can mean they are pushed out of the classroom—and much more likely to be introduced into the criminal justice system.

Who’s in the Pipeline?
Students from two groups—racial minorities and children with disabilities—are disproportionately represented in the school-to-prison pipeline. African-American students, for instance, are 3.5 times more likely than their white classmates to be suspended or expelled, according to a nationwide study by the U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights. Black children constitute 18 percent of students, but they account for 46 percent of those suspended more than once.

For students with disabilities, the numbers are equally troubling. One report found that while 8.6 percent of public school children have been identified as having disabilities that affect their ability to learn, these students make up 32 percent of youth in juvenile detention centers.

The racial disparities are even starker for students with disabilities. About 1 in 4 black children with disabilities were suspended at least once, versus 1 in 11 white students, according to an analysis of the government report by Daniel J. Losen, director of the Center for Civil Rights Remedies of the Civil Rights Project at UCLA.

The School-to-Prison Pipeline | Teaching Tolerance







and whats scariest about it is that a grand majority of our kids go to schools like this and think its perfectly normal that's why they ACCEPT the situation there and take that attitude with them to adult hood

 

[Serious]

Son of a....

My high school had making of all this and more...

Random security searches, with drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors.

 

[88m3]

then they wanna complain about the violence in the city

 

[newarkhiphop]

Son of a....

My high school had making of all this and more...

Random security searches, with drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors.

suburb/higher income schools are NOT ALLOWED to have cameras, its VIOLATION of the kids RIGHTS, that's the mentality them kids grow up with and are educated in

 

[Serious]

suburb/higher income schools are NOT ALLOWED to have cameras, its VIOLATION of the kids RIGHTS, that's the mentality them kids grow up with and are educated in

Damn, without turning this into an us vs. them debate, with urban minorities being the victims of "institutionalized policies", the key to prosperity is through a strong influential upbringing. Just because urban minorities are commonly financially / economically oppressed, doesn't mean, the system will always abuse this revolving circuit of people.

I remember watching this documentary a couple weeks, about this african american family, which was literally living on the brink of poverty, (paycheck to paycheck). No lights, limited food etc. But they these kids still had a decent shot at life, without falling to environmental influence, because their strong willed parents.

Two American Families | FRONTLINE | PBS

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

am not a defeatist am just telling u the truth, don't you think the idea of opening up our own schools has been floated around before , why do you think most are only most very small "magnet" schools which usually fold or fail with 5 years of opening ?

here is my thing and a trend i have been noticing in the HL over the past couple of weeks, dudes are talkin about "we need to build this" we need to "start our own that"

NO

There is a perfectly fine infrastructure already in place in urban communities all across the country , what the community need is to actually start doing is being the people in charge of them

- more black teachers
- more black administrations at the schools
- more black superintendents
- curriculum tailored to our kids

i can go into detail why each of these is crucial if you wish

to put in perspective in the past 5 years i have worked directly in 4 schools and indirectly in over a dozen schools in Newark which has + 80% black population and each and every one of them over 70% of the teachers have been non black

And you think to achieve this we'll simply beg the white people i power to implement those changes? I'm saying we can no longer wait for white people to help us and instead start pushing to make those changes ourselves. If we were to push for more charter schools to be built in the communities with all those components that you mentioned, I think it would do wonders. I fully agree with your ideals, just your methods of achieving them I heavily disagree with.

 

[CentricTongues]

Brothers and Sisters need to build there own schools in Chicago

A lil radical but true

You remember those black panther schools that ran all the way into the 90s? those were awesome

i would def put my kid in there.