4 x 4 + 4 x 4 + 4 - 4 x 4 = ?

4 x 4 + 4 x 4 + 4 - 4 x 4 = ?


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OneManGang

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1.) you are re-writing the problem. geez.

2.) just follow the order of operations. *correctly*. why you are putting the 2 in () is beyond me.

very often the * is implicit.

y/x(a+b) is fine syntax.

I just want to point out that we are all talking in circles here. Clearly we all know the order of operations...but you still need to be careful, especially when using computer programs or scientific calculators. Its always best to use parenthesis to clearly dictate what order should be followed because different programs follow different input syntax.
 

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I know...see how you clearly defined the different parts of the equation? Basically as i wrote in my last post...Check it. All im saying is it is very ambiguous to write it as he did earlier. No math professor would ever leave the question like that on a test.

Thats the whole point of these FB math questions, to trick people up. everybody knows the please aunt stuff, but they forget( or didnt know ) the left to right part.

Probably the best video that explains this.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPe1aBW_YCg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPe1aBW_YCg[/ame]
 

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reason why 73 percent of people get it wrong is because only hoodrats and ghetto ass nikkas that dropped out of highschool use facebook now
 

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reason why 73 percent of people get it wrong is because only hoodrats and ghetto ass nikkas that dropped out of highschool use facebook now

:russ: Well that, but to some defense in higher math you can get away with all types of tricks. So they try to apply them to the simpler problems when you should just take the problem as is..lol
 

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Thats the whole point of these FB math questions, to trick people up. everybody knows the please aunt stuff, but they forget( or didnt know ) the left to right part.

Probably the best video that explains this.

6 ÷ 2 (2 + 1) = CORRECT WAY TO SOLVE - YouTube



Both solutions are actually correct. I start my video stating this expression is ambiguous. I give my interpretation of it ("my take" in the video), in a way to remind that PEMDAS is actually PE(MD)(AS) as I saw lots of people forgot, which is the purpose this video. And I explicitly say that mathematicians don't use this notation for this very reason.
Another reason for this video is to explain how fractions are the best way to remove any ambiguity and should be used as much as possible. Also, that a calculator is a tool and not a mathematical proof.
When people tell me it is 1, I ask them why, trying to show them their interpretation of the rules is not the only one. Of course BOTH INTERPRETATIONS ARE CORRECT, depending on the rules you use. There's no consensus.
Either using Standard Notation interpretation, either considering that implicit multiplication as priority, which is also widely used among writers.
Finally, I felt like trolling a little, and it's working! ;~b
 
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73% of folks get it wrong but over 80% of the coli gets it right? Yall nikkas cheating

thats becuz the coli is always the outlier when certain topics are brought up.

Bring up money, fitness, girls, brains , cars and just watch the replies.

We got huge numbers of 6 figure money makers, fitness gurus, fine dime smashing ebony gods flying around in the best whips.

Why would the coli not also be the outlier when it comes to brains as well?

:manny: This is just par for the course breh.

Either we are the best of the best... or.... maybe...people are lying? No... why would anyone lie to impress strangers they dont know.....nah son cats wouldnt be lying on here for no reason, i refuse to believe that.

I know its a dumbass lil question. But alot of people would have missed it. fukk outta here @ everyone remembering order of operations instantly. I couldnt even remember that dumbass saying, i asked my chick. I had to think about it for a min. im 25 and i havent done anything more complicated than basic math shyt since high school.
 

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thats becuz the coli is always the outlier when certain topics are brought up.

Bring up money, fitness, girls, brains , cars and just watch the replies.

We got huge numbers of 6 figure money makers, fitness gurus, fine dime smashing ebony gods flying around in the best whips.

Why would the coli not also be the outlier when it comes to brains as well?

:manny: This is just par for the course breh.

Either we are the best of the best... or.... maybe...people are lying? No... why would anyone lie to impress strangers they dont know.....nah son cats wouldnt be lying on here for no reason, i refuse to believe that.

I know its a dumbass lil question. But alot of people would have missed it. fukk outta here @ everyone remembering order of operations instantly. I couldnt even remember that dumbass saying, i asked my chick. I had to think about it for a min. im 25 and i havent done anything more complicated than basic math shyt since high school.
lol. it really comes down to ppl will post in topics that makes them look great.

for example whenever somebody makes a post your salary thread the majority of the posts will come from ppl with good jobs while the ppl making less than 40k tend to avoid those threads so it looks lop sided.
 

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This video examples I was going to make. First off I think ppl need to to stop redefining the problem as either 6/2(1+2) or 6÷2(1+2), because those are two different things. For me the ambiguity lies in this example 6/2(1+2) for the reason stated in the "Best Answer" from the link @Data-Hawk provided
Apparently simple math: 6÷2(1+2) = ? - Yahoo! Answers.

The "/" fraction/division bar imo can be taken to mean two things.

If the symbol '/' was used this whole debate would be ambiguous since that symbol can mean "to divide by" or it could mean a fraction bar.

If you still disagree then:yeshrug: Ive never seen anybody change their opinion on this so i guess from here it'll just be an endless loop. At least most people got the OP equation right.

In your own link the person who got voted best answer even said that
6/2(1+2) is ambiguous.


Also would it be incorrect if one first used the Distributive property first in the problem and turn 6/2(1+2) into 6/(2+4) which would then simplify to 1. :word:
 
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This video examples I was going to make. First off I think ppl need to to stop redefining the problem as either 6/2(1+2) or 6÷2(1+2), because those are two different things. For me the ambiguity lies in this example 6/2(1+2) for the reason stated in the "Best Answer" from the link @Data-Hawk provided
Apparently simple math: 6÷2(1+2) = ? - Yahoo! Answers


Also would it be incorrect if one first used the Distributive property first in the problem and turn 6/2(1+2) into 6/(2+4) which would theno simplify to 1. :word:



lets do it both ways and the / and the division sign are different .In this case 6 divided by 2(1+2) or

6
- (1 + 2 )
2

case [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1
( with the division symbol ) = 3 x 3 = 9( please remeber to move left to right )

case #2 ( with the fraction bar ):

6
- ( 3 ) = 9 or just distribute and when you do you do 6/2 as a whole.
2


just to have some fun.

6 ( 1 + 2 )
- -----
2 1
If they wrote the problem as 6/2 * (1 + 2 ) or 6 divided by 2 x (1+2)would that help? just follow the order of operations.
 
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