4 Presidents-WTF?!! Why Ya’ll Ain’t Tell Me?!

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What Lehman Brothers' failure means today


Lehman may not have been a particularly large bank, and it probably was not even insolvent when it failed. Nonetheless, it nearly took down the global financial system and triggered the Great Recession. Lehman was transformative because it fundamentally altered people's understanding of the world around them.

After September 15, 2008, the fear of "another Lehman" and a deeper financial catastrophe put the United States on the path toward wide-ranging reform. And Lehman was constantly invoked during the European financial crisis that erupted after 2010, highlighting fears of a "death spiral" stemming from state bankruptcies and defaults. Since then, the scare story seems to have lost its effectiveness. In the US, banking reforms are now being undone; and in the European Union, government debt-to-GDP (gross domestic product) ratios are well above where they were in 2008.


Still, for policymakers and opinion-shapers, the 2008 financial crisis produced three new grand narratives. First, after Lehman, the American economist Charles Kindleberger's 1978 masterful book Manias, Panics, and Crashes met with a newfound popularity. Kindleberger had drawn explicitly from the American economist Hyman Minsky's work on financial cycles, and his arguments were read as a warning against "market fundamentalism."

The second narrative was that Lehman's failure had made the Wall Street crash of 1929 and the Great Depression newly relevant. Policymakers drew lessons from the interwar years, and successfully avoided a full repeat of that period. During the Great Depression, especially in Germany and the US, the prevailing attitude was that of then-US Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon: "Liquidate labour, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate." By contrast, the response during the Great Recession was to use public debt to replace insecure private debt - an intervention that would prove sustainable only as long as interest rates remained low.


The third narrative held that Lehman's collapse augured the end of American capitalism. This butterfly-effect story was popular in every country that was tired of being bossed around by the US. As Germany's then-finance minister, Peer Steinbrück, explained in September 2008: "The US will lose its status as the superpower of the global financial system, not abruptly but it will erode."

At first, the 2008 crisis was widely regarded as a quintessentially American disaster, owing to the country's mix of testosterone-driven finance and penchant for promoting home ownership even for those who cannot afford it. Only gradually was it recognised as a truly transatlantic affair. As the economists Hyun Song Shin and Tamim Bayoumi subsequently show, badly regulated, oversized European banks played a key role in the build-up of risk throughout the financial system.

Neither of the first two popular narratives is really correct. The crisis was not a market failure, but rather the product of opaque, dysfunctional non-market institutions that had become perversely intertwined. It exposed the problem of complexity - not of markets as such.

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This a good ass thread .. why the one bruh kept trying to derail it is weird to me but anyways even if what's said is not 100% true it allows you to think for yourself and do your own investigating
Man someone disagreeing isn't derailing shyt just say yall want an echo chamber lmao
 

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G. Edward Griffin (born November 7, 1931) is an American author, filmmaker, and conspiracy theorist. Griffin's writings promote a number of right-wing views and conspiracy theories regarding various of his political, defense and health care interests. In his book World Without Cancer, he argued in favor of a pseudo-scientific theory that asserted cancer to be a nutritional deficiency curable by consuming amygdalin.[2][3][4] He is the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island (1994),[2] which advances debunked conspiracy theories[5] about the Federal Reserve System. He is an HIV/AIDS denialist, supports the 9/11 Truth movement, and supports a specific John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theory.[2] He also believes that the Biblical Noah's Ark is located at the Durupınar site in Turkey.[6]

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In May 2009, Griffin helped Robert L. Schulz and Edwin Vieira organize a meeting at Jekyll Island of thirty people which, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, included "radical tax protesters, militiamen, nativist extremists, anti-Obama 'birthers,' hard-line libertarians, conspiracy-minded individuals with theories about secret government concentration camps, even a raging anti-Semite named Edgar Steele."[16] Speakers at the meeting "warned of 'increasing national instability,' worried about a coming 'New World Order', denounced secret schemes to merge Canada, Mexico and the United States, and furiously attacked the new president's 'socialized' policies and failure to end illegal immigration", and attendees made plans for a "continental congress" that occurred in November 2009 that was hosted by the We the People Foundation.[16] Griffin was the first to speak at the Jekyll Island meeting and he "told conferees that merely putting 'large numbers of people in the street' was not enough. 'We must,' he said, 'achieve power.'"[16]

He founded an organization called "Freedom Force International" that put on conventions, like a "Red Pill Expo" in Bozeman, Montana, in 2017 which, according to the local newspaper, "its organizers say, promotes freedom of choice, (but) has been criticized by human rights proponents as an “alt-right” recruiting attempt."[17]

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Lol yeah nah I’m not reading this shyt now
 

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That's what was always interesting to me is that people believe these symbols are "demonic" or "evil" when they are actually date back to Ancient African Empires. It's perverted by Europeans.

A lot of what y'all talking about dates all the way back to Ancient Greeks and Roman's perversion of Ancient African Empires.

Everything from our government and organizations stems from these ancient civilizations.
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The Dutch too. The Moors were all up in there. They were prolly more brutal than the Spanish and Portuguese

Them and the Germans are why South African countries are the way they are. It's crazy how a country that is majority Black and the Black people are indigenous there, but they are treated as second class citizens by invaders.
 

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Banks borrow from other banks. Capitalism. They want the average citizen to repay their debt when banks are indebted themselves. The Long Con continues.

That's why I laugh when people look down on me for still having student loan debt and medical debt. This country is ran on it and it's not a coincidence that Black Americans suffer the most from it.

I wonder if there's any truth to what my dad said about how "Black people are born with bad credit."
 

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That's why I laugh when people look down on me for still having student loan debt and medical debt. This country is ran on it and it's not a coincidence that Black Americans suffer the most from it.

I wonder if there's any truth to what my dad said about how "Black people are born with bad credit."
Everybody is in debt - we are born into financial disparity but we know the planned economics and plot behind the lack of wealth distribution for us as black people. Example - Chicago (see video below). but some people have the resources to cover up their debt or put on a facade. The financial events circulating right now is putting a lot of that in the open. From Wall Street to Front Street. You see these billion dollar companies with all of these so called assets have no liquidity. Going from billions to bankrupt based on market rates, borrowing and begging for money like a payday loan
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But anyway - as far as the poverty cycle, watch this video below when you can. This is one of the best docs that I’ve seen about the sources of Chicago inequality going back to the southern migration. (The documentary doesn’t exploit the people or goi sound diminishing them otreating them like shyt, it’s a human historical approach based on facts and data. Also it ends on a more positive note. But it’s dead real about how black people are literally pushed into a radius of the city, and how that led to a prototype of cyclical poverty in other cities). The political system in power literally created a cycle of unrestricted poverty and inequality based on dividing lines, lack of access, job and food deserts.
 

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That's why I laugh when people look down on me for still having student loan debt and medical debt. This country is ran on it and it's not a coincidence that Black Americans suffer the most from it.

I wonder if there's any truth to what my dad said about how "Black people are born with bad credit."
No one should look down on you for having student loans. The shyt that I see about people graduating debt free is not the norm. I’m still paying on student loans - but if it wasn’t for me graduating then I know for a fact; I wouldn’t have the opportunities or experiences that I have. It’s give or take out here - everyone is sacrificing something in exchange for what they want to achieve. It’s not so much dealing with the cards that you are dealt but moreso what is your reaction or choices that you make when dealt a bad hand. If loans are what you had to do to improve your options - then so be it. Nothing to be ashamed about. But also think ahead - put what you can afford into a brokerage account on the side , that investment does build over time. Especially if your employer has a vested contribution program. And don’t move it - just wait. That’s one thing that we as a community needs more of - more financial education and savings programs.
 

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Big Bank was exposed something serious when the industry imploded in 2008. Because This movie right here was crucial
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moral of the story- Never underestimate Risk Analysts, Conflict Analysis, and Document Review team, just saying :whistle:

Posted on January 25th
4 days later ^^
Timeline of a crisis: r/WallStreetBets and GameStop
January 29th ^^^^
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Not to pat myself on the back but did I predict this or what -


GameStop, AMC stocks log best performing week ever as retail investor vs. Wall Street war drags out



and no I wasn’t in on the Wall Street GameStop stock up, :whistle:- it’s all a coincidence; SEC is watching
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