
Call it what you want. I was just sharing dialogue until it began taking up half my day. But please feel free to continue defending your position. Personally, I see no need for me to do the same.
Your back & forth was much appreciated breh... you had me churning out alphabets in an onslaught fashion via this keyboard....

Don't know if you marked the recurring theme I was portraying... i.e. my main case in point was that
TIME PLAYED/ PLAYS/ WILL PLAY an integral role in moulding & mainfesting belief systems.....You see my my problem with
creationism is it's no more or less valid than any other culture's creation myth. It all made sense
at the time they were thought up to the people who imagined them. Christians believe the earth is 6000 years old. This literal account came from Martin Luther. IIRC, medieval monks had come to this conclusion by counting back the ages of characters in the bible to determine the rough age. The Bible doesn't explicitly give a number. This was only a best guess. Both Augustine of Hippo and Thomas Aquinas asserted that the creation story was an
allegory not to be taken literally.
So you see how for most people living in the early 16th century, it made sense. Writing didn't really evolve until the 4th millennium. Any history prior to that would have been oral. Which of course gets corrupted over time. Modern archaeology, biology, geology, and astronomy had yet to be invented. So there was no way to prove the 6000 year figure wasn't true. It was the best answer European society had at the time. Then as science evolved, holes began to appear in the creation myth. Human fossils and artifacts were found that were much older than 6000 years. Then they began finding animal and plant fossils that were millions of years old. Then Darwin came up with his theory of evolution studying the changes in these animals. Then we began finding stars that were more than 6000 light years away from us. Then we discovered the cosmic background radiation and came to the conclusion that the universe is 13.8 billion years. That's the best information we have now. Heck We're still not sure what caused the Big Bang

. Maybe it was divine intervention. We lack the tools to know for sure. However, any Christian who continues to view the Bible creation story as being
literal with
SO MUCH EVIDENCE (see list below extracted from various Bible excerpts) against it is I guess seriously closet brained & illogical. Even the founders of their own church said it wasn't. For most of Christian history it wasn't. This is only a recent invention friend...
Please tell me or rather explain (if you can that is ) How does one take the below & accept it whole heartedly without batting an eyelid or forming an imaginary question mark over their heads

......especially now in modern
times... Just realise that more time passes, these dated holy books will be less & less credible....with the se- saw clearly tipping in sciences favour as it gets more & more prominent at giving us various answers to our life & faith questions
A bush that burned yet wasn't consumed that also talked.
A virgin birth.
Angels killing the first born of an entire city.
Demons possessing pigs.
Talking donkeys and snakes.
Returning from the dead.
Angels guarding the corners of a flat world.
Dude being swallowed by a whale and surviving.
Floating hands inscribing stuff on a wall
Parting a sea with a stick
Shouting at a wall to make it fall
Glowing Jesus (transfiguration)
Bears killing kids for making fun of male pattern baldness.
Anyways to conclude
(this is the believer in me by the way or whatever remains of him that is):
Believing in a god is a leap of faith.
Who's to say that the universe wasn't sparked into existence by some unfathomable being that was interested in creating a sand box for life. Cosmic rocks carry the building blocks throughout the universe and the fundamental laws of our universe create the option for our consciousness to have evolved. Someone that takes that leap of faith I can respect

. However The bible is just words written by people used to control other people. Considering it the word of an omnipotent being is a leap of stupidity, not a leap of faith brehs
