4 Mistakes You Make When You Talk About Islam (And Religion in General)

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It needs to be eradicated along with the people who practice it if need be.

, in this day and age

Violence should be only the last possible outcome.
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lol, good thing most people who own weapons, willing to kill, and control resources on Earth are religious... There would be a killing spree just because people put the actions of thousands on the backs of nearly 6 billion..

I guess it's easy to make false connections when on 2% of people on the planet are atheist, and a few others are non religious. Especially when you don't understand human motivations and manipulation ----

This reminds me of the Movie Equlibrum... Most of HL are on some Grammaton Cleric shyt. :deadmanny:

Most of the POST in HL and back in KTL remind me of V for Vendetta when they wanted to KILL the fat white gay guy if he had a Quran -- You fakkits don't understand y they made the gay guy who was hiding his identity to also be hording art, Qur'an, and other random shyt. Not recognizing how all bigotry is connected and Blaming behaviors and concepts on Everything leads to MAss oppression. It's the same thing some Arab nations do, it's the same thing Hitler did.... Modern Atheist don't realize they do the same shyt because self ignorance is difficult to notice.
 

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:whew:

lol, good thing most people who own weapons, willing to kill, and control resources on Earth are religious... There would be a killing spree just because people put the actions of thousands on the backs of nearly 6 billion..

I guess it's easy to make false connections when on 2% of people on the planet are atheist, and a few others are non religious. Especially when you don't understand human motivations and manipulation ----

This reminds me of the Movie Equlibrum... Most of HL are on some Grammaton Cleric shyt. :deadmanny:

Most of the POST in HL and back in KTL remind me of V for Vendetta when they wanted to KILL the fat white gay guy if he had a Quran -- You fakkits don't understand y they made the gay guy who was hiding his identity to also be hording art, Qur'an, and other random shyt. Not recognizing how all bigotry is connected and Blaming behaviors and concepts on Everything leads to MAss oppression. It's the same thing some Arab nations do, it's the same thing Hitler did.... Modern Atheist don't realize they do the same shyt because self ignorance is difficult to notice.


Don't understand why you quoted me when none of the above applied to what I said.
 

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And that, sir, is a lie.​


No, it isn't. If I replace "God" with "shoe", you wouldn't think twice of calling that person delusional. "I talked to the shoe and the shoe helped me get a job"

That is NOT the same thing as saying people who believe/ in a higher power/force/being have mental disorders.

If you believe men lived inside of whales, prophets flew across the sky on a winged horse upon their death, a supreme being talks back to you when you pray, a supreme being helped you get a job while ignoring dying infants, and so on, you are a delusional human being. End of story.
 

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No, it isn't.

Yes, it is and what you posted after this is immaterial. You aren't a doctor by any stretch of the imagination, therefore, are not fit to render ANY diagnosis as to the mental faculties of anyone.

As it stands, religion is actually good for mental health (not extremism/fundamentalism)......

http://www.baylorisr.org/wp-content/uploads/levin_religion_mental_health.pdf

International Journal of Applied Psychoanalytic Studies
Int. J. Appl. Psychoanal. Studies (2010)
Published online in Wiley InterScience
(www.interscience.wiley.com) DOI: 10.1002/aps.240
To summarize, empirical evidence supports a generally protective effect of religious involvement for mental illness and psychological distress. Like all epidemiologic findings, there are exceptions: e.g. individuals whose religious ideations and practices contribute to, or refl ect, pathology. But, on average, this finding is statistically significant, replicated, and modest in magnitude. It is not solely a function of the assessments used for religion or mental health or of characteristics of the populations studied. Existing theoretical perspectives provide a reasonable basis for making sense of this association, which is coherent with behavioral, biological, psychodynamic, and transpersonal understandings of determinants of mental and emotional well-being. While much remains to be learned, scholarship has come a long way in the past 30 years
Your biased opinion has no basis in fact.

End Of Story.
 
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tru_m.a.c said:
you had to qualify the brand of religion that is good for mental health

Contact this man for all your questions.....

http://www.baylorisr.org/about-isr/jeff-levin/

Dr. Jeff Levin, an epidemiologist by training, holds a distinguished chair at Baylor University, where he is University Professor of Epidemiology and Population Health and Director of the Program on Religion and Population Health at the Institute for Studies of Religion. He also serves as Adjunct Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Duke University Medical Center. Both biomedical scientist and religious scholar, his work at the interface of religion, science, and medicine has been instrumental in broadening the perspectives of researchers and clinicians on the connections among body, mind, and spirit. He joined the Baylor faculty in the fall of 2009.

Dr. Levin was the first scientist to systematically review the empirical literature on religion and health, and the first scientist funded by the NIH to conduct research on the topic. He is a member of the Extended Faculty of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, was Chairman of the NIH Working Group on Quantitative Methods in Alternative Medicine, and has served on the editorial boards of numerous peer-reviewed journals. He has authored over 175 scholarly publications, mostly on the instrumental functions of religion for physical and mental health, general well-being, and aging. He has written or edited eight books, most recently Healing to All Their Flesh: Jewish and Christian Perspectives on Spirituality, Theology, and Health and the forthcoming Judaism and Health: A Handbook of Practical, Professional, and Scholarly Resources. According to the Institute for Scientific Information, Dr. Levin is one of the most highly cited social scientists in the world.

Dr. Levin holds an A.B. in religion and in sociology from Duke University, an M.P.H. from the University of North Carolina School of Public Health, and a Ph.D. in Preventive Medicine and Community Health from the Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences at the University of Texas Medical Branch. He completed a postdoctoral research fellowship at the University of Michigan’s Institute of Gerontology. His research has been funded by the NIH, the AMA, and private foundations. In 2002, he was elected a Fellow of the Gerontological Society of America.

Dr. Levin’s current research and writing are focused on three areas: (a) social and epidemiologic research on Judaism and population health, (b) theories of healing and the work of healers, and (c) the role of faith-based initiatives in public health and healthcare policy. He is married to Dr. Lea Steele, Research Professor in the Baylor Institute of Biomedical Studies. Dr. Levin is a member of the board of directors of Congregation Agudath Jacob, the Conservative synagogue in Waco, TX.
 

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Contact this man for all your questions.....

http://www.baylorisr.org/about-isr/jeff-levin/



that wasn't my point. I'm not arguing the legitimacy of the study. I'm arguing that you had to qualify the brand of religion that you would argue against TUH about. Meaning that the two you put in parenthesis (extremism and fundamentalism) are brands that you could agree with TUH on. Once you made the distinction between trains of though, you actually gave credibility to TUHs statement.

If you didn't think there was a reason to make a distinction, you wouldn't have made it.
 

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tru_m.a.c said:
that wasn't my point. I'm not arguing the legitimacy of the study. I'm arguing that you had to qualify the brand of religion that you would argue against TUH about. Meaning that the two you put in parenthesis (extremism and fundamentalism) are brands that you could agree with TUH on. Once you made the distinction between trains of though, you actually gave credibility to TUHs statement.

If you didn't think there was a reason to make a distinction, you wouldn't have made it.

I made the statement because of this statement :

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Religion is a mental condition in which people suffer from.

....which is a lie atheists and anti-theists spread.​
 
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Next thing you know OP will be saying religion is made by the mind because kids wanna kill there Father/Mother so they can claim there Mother/Father
 

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Religion is a mental condition in which people suffer from. We should do our best to try to help our fellow human beings who are afflicted with this disorder, not advocate indiscriminately killing all of them. It's best to attempt to shine light in the nonsense they believe, and have them make progress through reason. Violence should be only the last possible outcome.
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Islam is extremist Arab worshipping filth. Everyone it has a stronghold in Africa, there is conflict and Arab masters. It needs to be eradicated along with the people who practice it if need be.
Implement the same kind of human suffering that these religions are guilty of? :dahell:
 

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Fervid said:
Implement the same kind of human suffering that these religions are guilty of? :dahell:

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that wasn't my point. I'm not arguing the legitimacy of the study. I'm arguing that you had to qualify the brand of religion that you would argue against TUH about. Meaning that the two you put in parenthesis (extremism and fundamentalism) are brands that you could agree with TUH on. Once you made the distinction between trains of though, you actually gave credibility to TUHs statement.

If you didn't think there was a reason to make a distinction, you wouldn't have made it.


Pretty much it right here. Linking a study by a man who is essentially a religious scholar ends up boosting his argument only when defining distinct subgroup of religious people.

Anyone that believes God impregnated a woman with himself only to kill himself to save people is delusional. If religion wasn't so integrated in our daily lives due to brain washing, lack of education and cultural/social pressure, no one would hesitate to condemn a person who believes in flying horses as a sick person.
 

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Pretty much it right here. Linking a study by a man who is essentially a religious scholar ends up boosting his argument only when defining distinct subgroup of religious people.

You generalized. I specified. Oh, and he's not just a religious scholar. He's also a biomedical scientist and psychiatrist......things you are not.​

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Anyone that believes God impregnated a woman with himself only to kill himself to save people is delusional.

If you believe that's what they believe, you have no clue what you're talking about and are delusional.​

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If religion wasn't so integrated in our daily lives due to brain washing, lack of education and cultural/social pressure, no one would hesitate to condemn a person who believes in flying horses as a sick person.

Without religion, you'd have no 'rights', science or education.

Keep being a bigot, brehs.​
 
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