4 Idaho college students killed in "worst crime we've ever seen". Suspect arrested 12/30

[Json]

This idea that the murder was going to be solved in days or weeks is just not realistic. This could take months, even a year or more to charge someone. Not sure where people get the idea that something like this is resolved so quickly. Routine gang killings can take months or years before there is an arrest or arrest/indictment.

Probably cause it’s a small town. Let’s be real. Unless it really was a random hobo, the actual suspect list once you cut out the elderly, little kids, and women is pretty small.

 

[Json]

Right, and the police haven't brought them in for questioning? Haven't found blood soaked clothes because the family is in the cleaning business.

Question about what?

It’s up to the cops to prove the case. These white kids will just shut up and they have to release them unless they are under arrest.

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

yeah bro, you phrased it all perfectly. Here's why the frat thing, and a lot of other theories are not valid, not just here but in a lot of cases that gain rampant speculation:

There is NO available actual evidence that points to them. None. It's a theory created out of entirely speculation, which is not how cases are solved. They are solved by following and interpreting the evidence. You can create a theory that the teachers at the college killed the kids, largely the same way the frats are implicated.

The source is random, not credible ,reddit reports, that follow a narrative of shock value, and "they are going to get away with it".

Third, the criminal psychology doesn't track. Frat guys can be lots of things. They can be drunks, they can be rapists, they can be great guys, and those things all at the same time. They can be great students and whatever to. But, they aren't born killers, this isn't a group like ex military, or a group of dudes just out of the pen. There is a certain level of vioence that comes from a group of men that is built on rituals, and male bonding, and competition, sure, but the idea that they killed 4 people in cold blood, is unlikely, to say the least. This is one killer. I've read dozens of books on these kinds of things, it's one killer.

So, 2, or three, much less 4, all banding together to cut up 4 women in a drunken rage? It's just not the way things work. Maybe, a beating or an accidental killing, on site, certainly rapes, can happen like that. But, organizing, while drunk, driving to the house, in the middle of the night, and stabbing four of their peers to death, over what? It's POSSIBLE, sure, but there is nothing to suggest that is what happened, as of now.

Two roided up frat boys who have been dissed by their peers can absolutely turn killers. Especially if they had a building resentment.

You're just speculating based on what you think a killer looks like.

 

[richaveli83]

This sounds like a plot to something out of Scream. RIP though.

BTW:



GODDAMN! May whoever did this heinous crime suffer greatly in hell for killing this bustacious beauty.

 

[Arris]

Dna isn’t stagnant. Hair, blood, vomit degrades over time.

Again. It doesn’t totally matter if it’s a party house. If the person says they were in the house recently at a party and you find evidence they weren’t. They lied.

Kids nowadays have their phones on them all the time. Even if they ditched it the night of the murder if he says he was in the house two days earlier and the phone pings says nah or the social media puts them somewhere else.

It’s circumstantial but you have them in a lie.

Not to mention if you have someone else as your alibi and you find out the alibi is lying.

I think most people know by now if they are doing this type of dirt, to not have their phone on them.

Tracing peoples location from cell towers ain't some secret knowledge anymore.

If this was premeditated and the killer was keeping tabs and pounced when the circumstances lined up for them this will be a tough case

 

[murksiderock]

yeah bro, you phrased it all perfectly. Here's why the frat thing, and a lot of other theories are not valid, not just here but in a lot of cases that gain rampant speculation:

There is NO available actual evidence that points to them. None. It's a theory created out of entirely speculation, which is not how cases are solved. They are solved by following and interpreting the evidence. You can create a theory that the teachers at the college killed the kids, largely the same way the frats are implicated.

The source is random, not credible ,reddit reports, that follow a narrative of shock value, and "they are going to get away with it".

Third, the criminal psychology doesn't track. Frat guys can be lots of things. They can be drunks, they can be rapists, they can be great guys, and those things all at the same time. They can be great students and whatever to. But, they aren't born killers, this isn't a group like ex military, or a group of dudes just out of the pen. There is a certain level of vioence that comes from a group of men that is built on rituals, and male bonding, and competition, sure, but the idea that they killed 4 people in cold blood, is unlikely, to say the least. This is one killer. I've read dozens of books on these kinds of things, it's one killer.

So, 2, or three, much less 4, all banding together to cut up 4 women in a drunken rage? It's just not the way things work. Maybe, a beating or an accidental killing, on site, certainly rapes, can happen like that. But, organizing, while drunk, driving to the house, in the middle of the night, and stabbing four of their peers to death, over what? It's POSSIBLE, sure, but there is nothing to suggest that is what happened, as of now.

All the theories as of now are alleged, nothing is concrete. So any theories you are dismissing are the same as those others are keeping, they are all unproven to this point...

That particular theory alleges there was a beef some frat guys had with Ethan going back to last fall and this thing built. Sounds plausible to me. Again I have no clue the accuracy of the details shared but it doesn't sound hard to believe at all that an issue between frat bros that grew to include sour feelings over women built to murder...

That post alleges that two guys did this and one was skilled with knives, maybe one was a lookout, it doesn't say four people killed them nor that the two guys were in a drunken rage, it says the hit was premeditated which I 5hink everyone believes...

I just see it differently bro, there's no more speculation in this one than others and this is coming from an alleged insider who has knowledge of all the involved parties. If you were a cop you'd be crazy to dismiss this outta hand because it doesnt fit your "profile" of a killer , gotta check into it...

 

[Mike Nasty]

Question about what?

Everything alleged in these theories

Ya'll solved the case but don't think the evidence presented could be used by authorities or the prosecution. Funny how that works.

 

[pcpking]

This sounds like a plot to something out of Scream. RIP though.

BTW:



GODDAMN! May whoever did this heinous crime suffer greatly in hell for killing this bustacious beauty.

Unless she had money she wasn't going to age good

 

[Json]

Everything alleged in these theories

Ya'll solved the case but don't think the evidence presented could be used by authorities or the prosecution. Funny how that works.

Unless you are charging someone, you can’t hold them. They can leave whenever they want without answering your questions.

Ain’t nobody solved nothing. This is just a theory that’s been floated.

***** dude isn’t Deepthroat

 

[King Poetic]

A bunch of doofies from scary movie on the case

When this first happened u saw like 15 cops roaming through the crime scene probably contaminated evidence as well..

The killer/killers I say have a 60% chance of not being caught

 

[Mike Nasty]

A bunch of doofies from scary movie on the case

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

Unless she had money she wasn't going to age good

*Sees a pair of voluptuous breasts*

She isn't going to age well

 

[MenacingMonk]

*Sees a pair of voluptuous breasts*

She isn't going to age well

Who even thinks that after someone dies? Playing “what if” well into the future.

 

[re'up]

All the theories as of now are alleged, nothing is concrete. So any theories you are dismissing are the same as those others are keeping, they are all unproven to this point...

That particular theory alleges there was a beef some frat guys had with Ethan going back to last fall and this thing built. Sounds plausible to me. Again I have no clue the accuracy of the details shared but it doesn't sound hard to believe at all that an issue between frat bros that grew to include sour feelings over women built to murder...

That post alleges that two guys did this and one was skilled with knives, maybe one was a lookout, it doesn't say four people killed them nor that the two guys were in a drunken rage, it says the hit was premeditated which I 5hink everyone believes...

I just see it differently bro, there's no more speculation in this one than others and this is coming from an alleged insider who has knowledge of all the involved parties. If you were a cop you'd be crazy to dismiss this outta hand because it doesnt fit your "profile" of a killer , gotta check into it...

The difference is not that I want to sound arrogant or dismissive, but building the theory of the crime around a theory, making the theory fit the crime, and not the evidence, (of which there is little available to the public) are two very different things. always good to see your posts.

For instance, SD has a well known to police gang neighborhood, Southeast, if there's a 22 year old man shot ay 3:00 AM on a Friday night leaving a house party, a known gang member, killed with multiple shots from a 9MM handgun, and that is reported, I can be fairly certain that the profile of the killer is going to be a rival gang member/gang member, based on the circumstances and evidence. Could be for some personal reason, between gangsters, but it's probably not a lovers quarrel, or a domestic violence incident.

If a 32 year old woman is found strangled in her bedroom, with signs of a sexual assault, a pair of panties around her neck, and burn marks on her arms, in the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, maybe she was killed by a gang member because she informed on them, but nothing about the crime scene suggests that. Totally different types of murders.

The same way I see 4 white kids in Idaho, stabbed to death, 22 year olds, I know that "Sinaloa Cartel" hitmen DID NOT do this, because of the circumstances, because of the profile of the victim, but I promise, that theory is being ventured also.

So, the frat thing is like, what about the killing itself suggests a frat member? Besides that they knew and socialized with frat members. But, they also knew and socialized with bartenders, and multiple of other social scenes in a small college town. There is nothing about the crime itself, to suggest either committed a killing.

 

[d3koms]

I found law enforcements words interesting. We want a "CONVICTION." They also seemed to be more relaxed in recent days. I think they have their suspect(s). Just building the case. Also, It’s interesting that more info seems to be seeping out here lately. Think they purposely letting more information out to make the suspects know they got em.