3 Months In: Do you consider The Root a failure or success (Poll)

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@Fonsworth is gonna raise my kids once our girl leaves me for him

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[Concerning VIolence]

Here you go quoting only me again The poster who started that thread has a history of shock-threads and i asked a valid question. If even hypothetically you cant put boots in asses of white folks, what makes the reality seem any different? If a man is asking why a man didnt kill someone, see it from his perspective and stay out of your feelings.

We got people who get hopping fukking mad when a black person forgives a white who wronged them (at least publicly) . The shyt jumped the shark when instead of focusing on those who fight, we get mad at those who just want to live. For the second part of your post, ill cover it under this response too.

I think you're just mad when some posters get emotional and get aggressive ( which is true) on black issues like the praying for forgiveness thing (which believe it or not cacs couldn't really feel right with either) when the problem is not a lot want to fight back publicly and aggressively. If someone slams the forgiveness thing, there's a reason. If you just want to live and KIM, you don't have to care about these issues.

 

[Barnett114]

It's good.

There the occasional bait thread but they get bushed.

 

[At30wecashout]

I think you're just mad when some posters get emotional and get aggressive ( which is true) on black issues like the praying for forgiveness thing (which believe it or not cacs couldn't really feel right with either) when the problem is not a lot want to fight back publicly and aggressively. If someone slams the forgiveness thing, there's a reason. If you just want to live and KIM, you don't have to care about these issues.

Im not mad, in fact i rarely have an emotional response. I avoid many of them threads for a reason now.

It isnt the slamming forgiveness or what have you, its the aggression the posters will show in these topics, with a lot of it being passive. I dont personally have a problem, but just like this thread, i get tagged by 3 different people and eventually one or two go for my throat because out opinions diverge. I know im not the only poster this happens to, and thats why the consensus was to boot that shyt from tlr. what should be soothing chat or wellwishing turns into "spot the c00n" then the thread dies under a huge argument.

Like i said i came in to defend the root, not my own reasons for not being in there. Even if the way in which things are discussed dont jibe well with me.

 

[J-Nice]

This is one part I disagree about. Maybe at the end of the day, the coli social justice warriors are playing a position on this website for fukkery sake. Maybe, maybe not. However, there is a WORLD of difference between asking how someone knows that treating girls like shyt gets better results, and constantly complaining about peoples inaction on race matters. If i lie to a guy and say sticking a thumb up a chicks ass during doggy is an ancient mating ritual, its far less damaging than calling another man all sorta of names because he wont donate to a cause. Speaking of, umar johnson. Some people hold on to this man in spite of the fact that hes been around enough years that you would think we would concretely know his background and at he would have shyt to show for it. Question umar? Get called a crab in the barrel brotha...even though people are still wondering where the fundraising money he has collected before has went.

The bottom line is you cant compare everyday human interest stuff with activism. Seein action inspires people. Wagging your finger at someone for not doing anything but not leading by example causes resentment. Its he whole reason the anti-militant thing started. People went in on white supremacy and what black people ahould be doing, people asked what they were doing, got called c00ns and were given no receipts, and now people wanna hide their hands like they didnt throw stones. We know people are bullshytting about how much money or girls they have, but we arent as interested in that as we are in knowing who has actionable plans in place. Maybe i can get behind what someone else has in place, but if i inquire and he calls me c00n, why am i now in the wrong? Show proof or stop soap boxing.

Umar Johnson is one man in a long list of politicians, civil rights activists, and local leaders who have taken money from the community and used those funds inappropriately and he won't be the last.
The biggest difference between Umar Johnson and The Urban league is that Umar Johnson is only influential amongst a very small circle of people (Mainly the internet) while the Urban League is a
nationally known organization with a large following. And over the years they have misappropriated millions of dollars (Umar will never see that kind guap). I'm willing to bet that most Black people don't
even know who he is. While there are similarities to be had, the comparison itself is falsely weighted.

There have been threads on here where posters have legitimately asked for career advice, relationship advice, etc only to be met with shytty answers and trolling by most posters. I don't remember the title of the thread, but there was a dude on here asking for advice on his marriage and posters were telling him to leave his wife and "Get married brehs" without any context or frame of reference. And yet no one was asking for posters to show and prove why they have authority to council a man on his marriage. Are these subjects not as important? Are the people who talk about them on this site and go in the real world and make choices based on posters responses not important? Be as it may, there are alot of people here who take this seriously.

And let's not marginalize this shyt. Race is just as important as relationships, sex, wealth, and potential career paths. All these things are very important in the real world, and all of these things effect
black people on varying levels. Putting it in the same category as manga or fishing is just ridiculous. If I ask someone for career advice, I dame sure want someone who is an authority to steer me in the right direction. If people are talking about relationships, I want to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. If we wanna know people are bullshytting on this site when it comes to discussing serious topics, then we should want everyone to show and prove regardless of the topic. Set the standard across the board. Not just with shyt that only you deem important.

 

[At30wecashout]

Umar Johnson is one man in a long list of politicians, civil rights activists, and local leaders who have taken money from the community and used those funds inappropriately and he won't be the last.
The biggest difference between Umar Johnson and The Urban league is that Umar Johnson is only influential amongst a very small circle of people (Mainly the internet) while the Urban League is a
nationally known organization with a large following. And over the years they have misappropriated millions of dollars (Umar will never see that kind guap). I'm willing to bet that most Black people don't
even know who he is. While there are similarities to be had, the comparison itself is falsely weighted.

There have been threads on here where posters have legitimately asked for career advice, relationship advice, etc only to be met with shytty answers and trolling by most posters. I don't remember the title of the thread, but there was a dude on here asking for advice on his marriage and posters were telling him to leave his wife and "Get married brehs" without any context or frame of reference. And yet no one was asking for posters to show and prove why they have authority to council a man on his marriage. Are these subjects not as important? Are the people who talk about them on this site and go in the real world and make choices based on posters responses not important? Be as it may, there are alot of people here who take this seriously.

And let's not marginalize this shyt. Race is just as important as relationships, sex, wealth, and potential career paths. All these things are very important in the real world, and all of these things effect
black people on varying levels. Putting it in the same category as manga or fishing is just ridiculous. If I ask someone for career advice, I dame sure want someone who is an authority to steer me in the right direction. If people are talking about relationships, I want to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. If we wanna know people are bullshytting on this site when it comes to discussing serious topics, then we should want everyone to show and prove regardless of the topic. Set the standard across the board. Not with shyt that only you deem important.

I agree with all you said, so im only going to address the last point. Race issues are more important than that other stuff, which is why its important to have receipts. If no one sees how things are done, what is supposed to spark action? Shaming and finger wagging? Im about to drop a thread to hopefully spark some entrepreneurs cause talking about it aint enough. I feel the same way about making a difference for the communities.

What good are sermons and solutions if no one has proof of concept? This discussion is the kinda thing i enjoy, btw.

 

[J-Nice]

I agree with all you said, so im only going to address the last point. Race issues are more important than that other stuff, which is why its important to have receipts. If no one sees how things are done, what is supposed to spark action? Shaming and finger wagging? Im about to drop a thread to hopefully spark some entrepreneurs cause talking about it aint enough. I feel the same way about making a difference for the communities.

What good are sermons and solutions if no one has proof of concept? This discussion is the kinda thing i enjoy, btw.

If posters showed you what they do in real life, would that really spark you to action? Or would it just confirm or affirm some disagreement you had with a certain poster? Be honest.99% of the time when people use the "What are you doing" line, it's mostly used as an insult or a deflection. It's rarely used as an inquiry into what people are actually doing for the community.

A while back, Blackking made a thread in the root asking posters what they were doing for the community. When I tell you that thread was light, homie that shyt didn't make it to 5 pages. The only participants (If I remember correctly) were myself @bdizzle @Gifted one and @2Quik4UHoes and @kp404 . And if you notice, these posters have a solid grasp on alot of subjects pertaining to African people. Look that thread up in the Root and see the work that were doing. But I would advise you to study the movements of the past, the people that shaped them, and the people who are making a difference now. And I encourage you to make that thread and I'll make sure to reply with the knowledge I've gathered over the years.

I've enjoyed our convo so far. We can disagree and still have respect for each other. Much respect.

 

[At30wecashout]

If posters showed you what they do in real life, would that really spark you to action? Or would it just confirm or affirm some disagreement you had with a certain poster? Be honest.99% of the time when people use the "What are you doing" line, it's mostly used as an insult or a deflection. It's rarely used as an inquiry into what people are actually doing for the community.

A while back, Blackking made a thread in the root asking posters what they were doing for the community. When I tell you that thread was light, homie that shyt didn't make it to 5 pages. The only participants (If I remember correctly) were myself @bdizzle @Gifted one and @2Quik4UHoes and @kp404 . And if you notice, these posters have a solid grasp on alot of subjects pertaining to African people. Look that thread up in the Root and see the work that were doing. But I would advise you to study the movements of the past, the people that shaped them, and the people who are making a difference now. And I encourage you to make that thread and I'll make sure to reply with the knowledge I've gathered over the years.

I've enjoyed our convo so far. We can disagree and still have respect for each other. Much respect.

Yup, those posters ring bells for authenticity. The call to action isnt for me, so much as other posters. I peole asked me for receipts, if i didnt have them, i would get themGotta show these dudes how to be the men they say they are. Not to say i dis anything special, but i was into the light stuff. Clothing drives for uptown chicago, donating blood, even hanging out with the little homies and giving them hand me down skate shoes and skateboards so they stay on the board rather than on the block. Even little things like that make a big difference because if everyone did it, we would be helping someone be better.it doesn't take much.

 

[J-Nice]

Yup, those posters ring bells for authenticity. The call to action isnt for me, so much as other posters. I peole asked me for receipts, if i didnt have them, i would get themGotta show these dudes how to be the men they say they are. Not to say i dis anything special, but i was into the light stuff. Clothing drives for uptown chicago, donating blood, even hanging out with the little homies and giving them hand me down skate shoes and skateboards so they stay on the board rather than on the block. Even little things like that make a big difference because if everyone did it, we would be helping someone be better.it doesn't take much.

What you do makes a big difference. It's more than what most people have done.

 

[CinnaSlim]

I like the Root but some threads I make are not aimed at just black folks. If I wanted my thread in the root. I'd place it in the Root. I like the Root for serious discussion, if im doing fukkery or trying to get differing opinions I want to put it in TLR.

 

[Hi!]

close vote

 

[AJtheOne]

I think its a failure

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Failure...like 10 threads that are stickied...and every fukking race thread gets thrown there instead of some that should've been thrown into the bushes.

For instance that bullshyt Michael Jackson by @Knuckles Red should've been thrown to the bushes..but some mod decided to and throw it into the root.

Like someone said earlier mods are just throwing TLR trash into The Root.

Mods just need to show a lil better discretion on which TLR race threads go to the bushes and which to the root. When you put TLR's trash in the root it hurts it's legitimacy. Otherwise they doing a good job.

This shyt been happening far too often.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

The self loathing "black people, why are we so docile" threads are obnoxious.

Other than that, I have no issue with it.

 

[The Emperor]

Just curious, since I still see a lot of posters get very upset when the threads they make get bounced there

I think it sucks...
Let people speak on blackness without being shuffled to the back of the bus...

If it gets replies cool if it doesn't it's gone anyway on its own...

I get posed with my stuff gets moved to the root because I never got there and have zero interest in it...