3/30/2024 PBC on PRIME: Tim Tszyu vs Sebastian Fundora (WBO & vacant WBC 154 Titles) / Rolando Romero vs Issac Cruz (WBA Super Lightweight Title)

[Apollo Creed]

N1gg@5 love to hate on the PBC but who put on better show and who’s better at building stars in the sport?

Lol this was an entertaining ass card. All the fighters these nikkas dikk eat cant even get fights due to shytty business or putting on snooze fest.

nikkas spend more time tweeting.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Sounds like a new BS to justify freezing Bud out. What he's saying was true before Bud vs Spence but why they act like that fight hasn't affected their status? Bud gained a lot of new followers after the Spence win while Spence's star status likely took a hit with the people who were just invested in his fights cause they thought Spence is the best turning off.

He shouldn't talk about no Spence and Bud anyway, give Tszyu his rematch

 

[baltimore]

140 looking crazy and pitbull mentioned haney name. Rather see pitbull/mathias tho.

Glad spence still going for a title shot and eventually going for the rematch. Fundora winning the best route for him but crawford just gotta be easy in negotiations and hope fundora has some pride and he could take that spot.

The fighters know.

We all know. Crawford the only #1 pfp 3x undisputed whos fans need consoling.. never seen this guy blamed for anything in here, just a career victim listening to yall

 

[Apollo Creed]

Sounds like a new BS to justify freezing Bud out. What he's saying was true before Bud vs Spence but why they act like that fight hasn't affected their status? Bud gained a lot of new followers after the Spence win while Spence's star status likely took a hit with the people who were just invested in his fights cause they thought Spence is the best turning off.

He shouldn't talk about no Spence and Bud anyway, give Tszyu his rematch

We dont know what bud has gained besides IG followers. Spence has a cult following in TX thst will fill up ATT stadium.

Bud is not a superstar, what superstar has to beg people for fights? Monster, Canelo, Tank, Fury, AJ arent tweeting folks begging for fights. Bud being a generational talent doesnt mean he is a superstar and thet seems to be something folks dont want to admit. Not being a superstar doesnt mean Bud is trash so not sure why nikkas get so defensive and they themselves 95% chance never even been to a Bud fight in a real life.

 

[reservoirdogs]

We dont know what bud has gained besides IG followers. Spence has a cult following in TX thst will fill up ATT stadium.

Bud is not a superstar, what superstar has to beg people for fights? Monster, Canelo, Tank, Fury, AJ arent tweeting folks begging for fights. Bud being a generational talent doesnt mean he is a superstar and thet seems to be something folks dont want to admit. Not being a superstar doesnt mean Bud is trash so not sure why nikkas get so defensive and they themselves 95% chance never even been to a Bud fight in a real life.

Not arguin he's a superstar just that he took Spence's status as the draw around 147. He could still be the bigger draw of the two without being a superstar, Spence wasn't a crossover star either.

Losses at the big stage always mattered in boxing, especially the ones when someone losing in a fashion how Spence just lost. It's cruel but everybody knows it's like that, you lose in the ring you also lose some interest, especially when you were undefeated before and a lot of ppl watched you thinking you're the best.

Bud has made some bad career decisions imo but overall his gamble paid off, two times undisputed, three times linear, current p4p nr.1 and widely regarded as the best of this era after the Spence fight so I wouldn't say that his decisions were that bad at the end of the day. He isn't reliant on PBC anyway, this is not like the situation at 147. He could go and fight Madrimov or someone for a vacant WBO title and nobody would say anymore that he's not beating the ones on the PBC side, that A league myth is over and done with. Can even go to 160 for Alimkhanuly if he wants to.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Not arguin he's a superstar just that he took Spence's status as the draw around 147. He could still be the bigger draw of the two without being a superstar, Spence wasn't a crossover star either.

Losses at the big stage always mattered in boxing, especially the ones when someone losing in a fashion how Spence just lost. It's cruel but everybody knows it's like that, you lose in the ring you also lose some interest, especially when you were undefeated before and a lot of ppl watched you thinking you're the best.

Bud has made some bad career decisions imo but overall his gamble paid off, two times undisputed, three times linear, current p4p nr.1 and widely regarded as the best of this era after the Spence fight so I wouldn't say that his decisions were that bad at the end of the day. He isn't reliant on PBC anyway, this is not like the situation at 147. He could go and fight Madrimov or someone for a vacant WBO title and nobody would say anymore that he's not beating the ones on the PBC side, that A league myth is over and done with. Can even go to 160 for Alimkhanuly if he wants to.

Bud did not take Spencss spot as a Draw, once again being the best does not = draw in the Boxing world. I am not saying this is right or wrong it is what it is.

AJ has taken Ls at HW, clearly isnt the best yet is the biggest name at HW.

Usyk put the beats on AJ twice yet AJ will outsell Usyk every day and twice on sunday.

Shakur is the so called best at 135 yet Pitbull cruz is a bigger star than him.

People support who they like and people dont Like Bud and his business habit dont help things at all.

Everyone says Bud is hard to work with and clearly Bud is about hitting licks (look at the BLK prime situation).

Nobody is scared of fighting anyone if they getting paid. And most folks are like they not gonna waste time on Bud and then barely get paid.

Fundora knows fighting Spence for the WBC in Dallas will net him 2-3x the pay he would get fighting Bud for both belts. From a business standpoint why WOULDNT fundora take the spence fight for more money especially if Spence is allegedly damaged goods? And bud will still be tweeting so its not like Sebastion cant spin the block in Bud.

Dudes gotta put they emotions aside lol. It speaks VOLUMES Spence got his ass kicked and is right back in the spotligjt while the “p4p king” is in twitter begging people for fights.

I NEVER saw Canelo or Floyd tweeting or begging for fights lol.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

N1gg@5 love to hate on the PBC but who put on better show and who’s better at building stars in the sport?

It feels like Top Rank is better at developing skilled boxers but once you're skilled, PBC is better at making the big box office fights that matter. PBC just has a problem with letting fights marinate too long and not giving us the fights we want.

Top Rank fighters are like 22-4 against PBC fighters so they need to do a better job at developing their talent to be better fighers & letting them remain active.

 

[Apollo Creed]

It feels like Top Rank is better at developing skilled boxers but once you're skilled, PBC is better at making the big box office fights that matter. PBC just has a problem with letting fights marinate too long and not giving us the fights we want.

Top Rank fighters are like 22-4 against PBC fighters so they need to do a better job at developing their talent to be better fighers & letting them remain active.

I hope you arent including Bud in that count lol because he was a free agent when he crossed the street.

TR in general is good for prospects but after that you should bet in yourself

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

It feels like Top Rank is better at developing skilled boxers but once you're skilled, PBC is better at making the big box office fights that matter. PBC just has a problem with letting fights marinate too long and not giving us the fights we want.

Top Rank fighters are like 22-4 against PBC fighters so they need to do a better job at developing their talent to be better fighers & letting them remain active.

Marinate too long is subjective because it only comes if a fan didn’t get their desired result. Is their even an undercard for Haney-Garcia yet?

 

[Apollo Creed]

PBC gave bud his biggest pay day ever, biggest shine ever and him and his dikk eaters still beimg idiots and fumbling the bag lol

 

[patscorpio]

It feels like Top Rank is better at developing skilled boxers but once you're skilled, PBC is better at making the big box office fights that matter. PBC just has a problem with letting fights marinate too long and not giving us the fights we want.

Top Rank fighters are like 22-4 against PBC fighters so they need to do a better job at developing their talent to be better fighers & letting them remain active.

He's not a person that would absorb the knowledge you kicked in that post breh ...he dikkrides too much

 

[reservoirdogs]

Bud did not take Spencss spot as a Draw, once again being the best does not = draw in the Boxing world. I am not saying this is right or wrong it is what it is.

AJ has taken Ls at HW, clearly isnt the best yet is the biggest name at HW.

Usyk put the beats on AJ twice yet AJ will outsell Usyk every day and twice on sunday.

Shakur is the so called best at 135 yet Pitbull cruz is a bigger star than him.

People support who they like and people dont Like Bud and his business habit dont help things at all.

Everyone says Bud is hard to work with and clearly Bud is about hitting licks (look at the BLK prime situation).

Nobody is scared of fighting anyone if they getting paid. And most folks are like they not gonna waste time on Bud and then barely get paid.

Fundora knows fighting Spence for the WBC in Dallas will net him 2-3x the pay he would get fighting Bud for both belts. From a business standpoint why WOULDNT fundora take the spence fight for more money especially if Spence is allegedly damaged goods? And bud will still be tweeting so its not like Sebastion cant spin the block in Bud.

Dudes gotta put they emotions aside lol. It speaks VOLUMES Spence got his ass kicked and is right back in the spotligjt while the “p4p king” is in twitter begging people for fights.

I NEVER saw Canelo or Floyd tweeting or begging for fights lol.

AJ lost popularity after the losses too, before the Usyk fight there was no way AJ was going to fight at the O2 arena lol, he did that twice (Franklin, Helenius) now. The difference between his and Usyk’s drawing power was just too big for Usyk to take his place as a draw, not the same as Bud and Spence who weren’t that far apart to begin with.
Idk about your Cruz example either, did Cruz even highlighted a card as the A side? I can only recall the Tank fight where he was the main event and there obviously Tank was the drawing name. What do we know about how big Cruz is?

So I just doubt Spence would be the draw he was before and even then he wasn’t a superstar. Guess we’ll see it soon

And Spence being back in talks of a titke fight speaks volumes of PBC trying to do in-house stuff than anything else. I know, other promoters do this shyt too just saying.

As I said this isn’t the 147 landscape though, Bud don’t need that “he can beat Haymon’s guys” validation anymore, he can go in different directions.

 

[R=G]

Tim wanted the Thurman, Spence, and Crawford fights...been wanting to get in the mix since Jermell is a non entity after beating that hoe up. Now he had this setback..he better push for the rematch..i dont think he believes that was a real loss because of the hole in his head.

 

[R=G]

Spence getting a title shot at a weight he never fought at before after getting his ass kicked like that is some of da wildest boxing politics ever lol.

Fundora is not a good fighter to have a "bounce back" fight against either. He's tall, he's a lefty, and he's awkward. This might be Spence's last fight

Run it. Lol. Wtf...is he suppposed to hide like Canelo from Benavidez..Teo from Haney? Nah. These guys been calling Spence out. Hes the money fight under 160. Dudes on here got infatuated that Spence had no options like he cant fight Boots, Castano, Fundora, Tim...they all said they wanted to fight him.

 

[JamesJabdi]

I was on this forum wanting to see Bud vs Tszyu, boots or even Ortiz right after the Spence fight....dudes was telling me that he don't need to fight anybody and downplaying everybody mentioned but now them same dudes want to see Bud vs Fundora

Now he suddenly "blacklisted" again

Bud had great momentum after that Spence and even went on tour......but he ain't capitalize on it. He looking for paydays to end his career and he ain't getting no damn 15 million dollars for Fundora