2Pac felt Biggie stole his style on Ready to Die & Ad-lib "Baby Baby"

[Roovers410]

The simple logic is this.. if Pac supposedly lying when this was all going on close to a year.. why did NOBODY call him out on these “lies” when they had as big a platform as he did to do so.... you’d think if a guy is accusing you of setting him up or at least being aware and you got all this stuff to the contrary it’d be easy to just call him out in any magazine, radio, etc. yet Biggie nor none of them did in ANY interview or could they keep a straight story.. I mean they even had the mixtape with puffy running his mouth and at no point did he say “ aha nikka stop lying you shot yourself” ..they never called him a liar once

Biggie did , and he demanded a apology hè did so in public.

 

[spliz]

Biggie did , and he demanded a apology hè did so in public.

Pac maybe shot himself once from them grabbing him but they DEFINITELY shot him. Pac wasn’t the only one shot that night. So that’s lies for nikkas to act like he didn’t.

 

[Roovers410]

Plenty nikkas in the streets get killed over rumors. What do that matter for 1996? It’s 2022. Unfortunately nikkas felt that was the truth back then. Doesnt help that Biggie was seemingly bragging about it on a bunch of songs after Pac got killed.

Biggie and Puff also made stupid mistakes. Im not denying this. Every single one of them was so young. Look at the Outlawz and JM , they cool now. Eventually Pac and Big would have been cool in a way 2 . I believe this.

 

[kingofnyc]

I hate using this term but clout is the simple answer. The dude came out with a book capitalizing off that robbery which should tell you what he's about. The Quad incident was a catalyst for BS where we lost Big & Pac unnecessarily. Think about that bro

And if you listened to Maj, he said "bullets" started flying meaning the stickup kids clapped back. Those nikkas weren't police where they're "supposed" to exercise restraint in certain circumstances; these are street nikkas we're talking about. Zayd, Maj, & Little Shawn stories all lineup. He said they said "gun" & started clapping. Zayd even describes what they looked like & saw them later with the same clothes bro lol. And truthfully, Dexter Isaac don't even sound like a BK dude to me listening to his audio call.

I don’t think it’s .. “clout chasing” when he did his exclusive interview on all hip-hop.com before that book dropped basically apologizing to Ms Wallace & Ms Shakur for his involvement at the Quad studio
I only assume you didn’t read Dexter book - because if you did you would probably have a different outlook … he literally gave every detail from the minute that Jimmy called him to set every thing up - from the street he parked his jeep on to going into the building scoping out the lobby to going upstairs in the studio and hollering at Jimmy to going back downstairs across the street at Sbarro‘s eating pizza with his 2 goon/soldiers as they waited for pac to arrive…. it’s pretty ridiculous to say it wasn’t him


now as far as Zayd, Maj & Lil shawn having the same story
well that isn’t true

Zayd : his brother-in-law is going to be bias to his love one (and i have no problem for him protecting his brother-in-law-law legacy ‘even tho it’s a lie’) BUT - i still give him a ton of credit for being da 1st person from this camp to openly admit dude shot himself

Maj : wasn’t there so it’s no reason to include him, even if he use the word bullets with the plural he would be saying his older brother Stretch was lying who clearly said it was only one shot

Lil shawn : again, didn’t witness the robbery - he was upstairs in the studio

while Dexter, Stretch & Freddie was all there & all have the same story of ONLY one self inflicted shot

 

[spliz]

Biggie and Puff also made stupid mistakes. Im not denying this. Every single one of them was so young. Look at the Outlawz and JM , they cool now. Eventually Pac and Big would have been cool in a way 2 . I believe this.

I believe this as well.

 

[spliz]

I don’t think it’s .. “clout chasing” when he did his exclusive interview on all hip-hop.com before that book dropped basically apologizing to Ms Wallace & Ms Shakur for his involvement at the Quad studio
I only assume you didn’t read Dexter book - because if you did you would probably have a different outlook … he literally gave every detail from the minute that Jimmy called him to set every thing up - from the street he parked his jeep on to going into the building scoping out the lobby to going upstairs in the studio and hollering at Jimmy to going back downstairs across the street at Sbarro‘s eating pizza with his 2 goon/soldiers as they waited for pac to arrive…. it’s pretty ridiculous to say it wasn’t him


now as far as Zayd, Maj & Lil shawn having the same story
well that isn’t true

Zayd : his brother-in-law is going to be bias to his love one (and i have no problem for him protecting his brother-in-law-law legacy ‘even tho it’s a lie’) BUT - i still give him a ton of credit for being da 1st person from this camp to openly admit dude shot himself

Maj : wasn’t there so it’s no reason to include him, even if he use the word bullets with the plural he would be saying his older brother Stretch was lying who clearly said it was only one shot

Lil shawn : again, didn’t witness the robbery - he was upstairs in the studio

while Dexter, Stretch & Freddie was all there & all have the same story of ONLY one self inflicted shot

nikka this is goofy. And Little Shawn I don’t trust whatsoever. Maj man’s also got hit. And his brother in law witnessed Pac get shot up. But u chose to ignore that shyt. Little Shawn wasn’t even downstairs.

 

[Renzo]

Biggie did , and he demanded a apology hè did so in public.

You mean the MTV interview he did AFTER the fab 5 interview where he initially said Pac was shot once and was “making movies” only to get on MTV and say “You get shot 5 times.. you head is spinning”?! Yeah no try again..and he said Pac lied on his man Puffy who he said he was standing back and looking shook.. it wasn’t nothing about the shooting or anything else he was supposedly lying about.. just that Puffy good name had been sullied. Keep up..

 

[Roovers410]

You mean the MTV interview he did AFTER the fab 5 interview where he initially said Pac was shot once and was “making movies” only to get on MTV and say “You get shot 5 times.. you head is spinning”?! Yeah no try again..and he said Pac lied on his man Puffy who he said he was standing back and looking shook.. it wasn’t nothing about the shooting or anything else he was supposedly lying about.. just that Puffy good name had been sullied. Keep up..

he says so literally start at 2:50

 

[Bondye Vodou]

he says so literally start at 2:50

 

[Renzo]

he says so literally start at 2:50

Then he got up on MTV and said something totally different.. went from he only got shot once on there to got shot 5 times on MTV.. so which is it?! Let me ask you this my man.. did they participate on the beef?? And to add.. why would apologize to him? When those tapes were done they hadn’t even fell out and How do you apologize when the dude stops taking your calls?! Keep in mind Fab 5 Freddy also had the tapes from Puffy and Henchmen that he never put out hmmm wonder why that is

 

[Knicksman20]

The simple logic is this.. if Pac supposedly lying when this was all going on close to a year.. why did NOBODY call him out on these “lies” when they had as big a platform as he did to do so.... you’d think if a guy is accusing you of setting him up or at least being aware and you got all this stuff to the contrary it’d be easy to just call him out in any magazine, radio, etc. yet Biggie nor none of them did in ANY interview or could they keep a straight story.. I mean they even had the mixtape with puffy running his mouth and at no point did he say “ aha nikka stop lying you shot yourself” ..they never called him a liar once.. all they could ever muster was “Pac know who shot him blah blah” as if that was ever a point of contention..he said himself who was behind it..yet they want you to believe they never participated in the beef at all when that’s an obvious lie to anyone with ears..

Who the hell besides Pac’s big mouth back in 94-96 would put street shyt out in the public. You have to be young to even go there. No one was putting street info out like that to the media

 

[Roovers410]

Then he got up on MTV and said something totally different.. went from he only got shot once on there to got shot 5 times on MTV.. so which is it?! Let me ask you this my man.. did they participate on the beef??

Im just saying that he said it , and hè did . Im not forming any opinion about if hè got shot or not. Kading says hè didnt get shot but shot himself, other people say different. I don’t know

 

[Renzo]

Im just saying that he said it , and hè did . Im not forming any opinion about if hè got shot or not. Kading says hè didnt get shot but shot himself, other people say different. I don’t know

I can respect that but my point on that question is this.. they can’t even admit they were a BIG part of all that to the point they still lying 20 some odd years later.. Busta even called Cease out on it saying they never dissed back:. Then there’s the mixtape where puffy makes a explicit death threat “we coming for you” .. I doubt they were coming to give out free hugs..or biggie on that Dilla joint or dead president video..so my point is this.. if they are willing to lie about things you can clearly hear yourself..what else are they willing to lie about.. kading also said Faith and puffy called the crips all elated about the Vegas shooting and even STILL tried to pay the bounty even when he didn’t have to after the fact, so let’s say they weren’t involved in the NY shooting., they were clearly behind the Vegas shooting to the point they had Biggie out there taking credit for it..which funny enough is what Pac(told to the outlaws) said was the intention behind the NY shooting was for ppl to think they were behind it, he was supposed to be killed and then they drop who shot ya.. is it true? Who knows but the way they went about things after the Vegas hit sure makes it very plausible..

 

[kingofnyc]

nikka this is goofy. And Little Shawn I don’t trust whatsoever. Maj man’s also got hit. And his brother in law witnessed Pac get shot up. But u chose to ignore that shyt. Little Shawn wasn’t even downstairs.

i guess u didn’t read or comprehend my post
the homie @Knicksman20 is the one saying Zayd, Maj & Lil Shawn stories corroborate - i said what u just said Lil Shawn was upstairs

and what’s goofy is Maj man that got hit is Freddie Nickz … da same nikka I’ve been using over and over and over and over as the witness that was standing right behind pac as he went for his gat & one of Dexter’s goons grabbed his wrist as the gun shot fired out going through pac thigh then ricocheting into Freddie abdomen

Freddie’s on record saying that was the ONLY shot that went off

 

[Paper Boi]

love 2pac but those sound like some overly emotional feminine thoughts.

i've never heard someone say this before this interview, because he sounds nothing like 1992-93 pac which is when ready to die was recorded. he was not biting strictly and 2pacalypse now pac. they sound nothing alike, if anyone switched up their flow and changed their whole style on some biter shyt....