2Pac felt Biggie stole his style on Ready to Die & Ad-lib "Baby Baby"

[spliz]

I dno about that spliz … unless he stayed cool with suge …. And all the friction he caused he needed a soild team behind him with suge and the pirus …. If he separated himself from that pac would be food in them streets the amount of stuff he stirred up …

Speculation. But the bottom line is. Pac wasn’t actually signed to Death Row. And Pac was making money moves with Quincy and his daughter. Those are the facts. Everything else is speculation.

 

[Roovers410]

But Bad Boy that same heavy involvement with SSCC. So.. but u nikkas skip right over all that shyt tho. Biggie right hand man still an OG Crip till this day.

Puff didnt start hanging out with ssc in 96, he had a relation with them before. Pac was influenced by MOB in only 6 Months time.

 

[Bigsuk]

True. And in 96 I dont know if the west would have ran with Pac if he went at snoop. That was coming and would have been really dangerous for him. Next to this , Puff was making this historical deal with Clive Davis allowing him to crush the Death Row budget at the time. As we could see with the 97 releases

To be honest u can tell many people in hiphop weren’t feeling the friction pac was causing within hiphop all together but nobody really spoke up properly cause they didn’t want the hassle of dealing with suge n deathrow goons …

 

[Bigsuk]

Speculation. But the bottom line is. Pac wasn’t actually signed to Death Row. And Pac was making money moves with Quincy and his daughter. Those are the facts. Everything else is speculation.

Spliz… how was pac not signed to deathrow????

 

[spliz]

Puff didnt start hanging out with ssc in 96, he had a relation with them before. Pac was influenced by MOB in only 6 Months time.

Pac was also around OG Crips before then. So did that make him not be able to move in the streets or whatever dumb shyt?. Matter fact. Pac beat up the Hughes Brothers with a bunch of Crips. shyt that’s more banging than the shyt he was doin on Death Row but nobody accused him of that then. I guess cause red is a loud color huh. I don’t give a shyt how long Puff n them was around SSCC. U can’t criticize one without the other and if Pac was gang bangin than so was Bad Boy. But let me guess. Deflection deflection deflection. The same shyt y’all accuse Pac fans of doing but y’all are the masters of that shyt with Biggie and Bad Boy.

 

[spliz]

Spliz… how was pac not signed to deathrow????

Delray Richardson literally pulled up the actual paperwork Pac signed. He was signed to Interscope and they just let him claim the Death Row umbrella. The shyt just keeps unraveling don’t it? Lol. This is why I hate when people act like they know everything. That 3 album deal. Was so he can gain his power of attorney back and finally make his moves with the Warner Bros situation. He was never actually signed to Death Row. Which is prolly why Pac was mad that Syke tried to sign to them directly after Pac told him not to. Cause Pac had a plan they didn’t know about.

 

[Roovers410]

Pac was also around OG Crips before then. So did that make him not be able to move in the streets or whatever dumb shyt?. Matter fact. Pac beat up the Hughes Brothers with a bunch of Crips. shyt that’s more banging than the shyt he was doin on Death Row but nobody accused him of that then. I guess cause red is a loud color huh. I don’t give a shyt how long Puff n them was around SSCC. U can’t criticize one without the other and if Pac was gang bangin than so was Bad Boy. But let me guess. Deflection deflection deflection. The same shyt y’all accuse Pac fans of doing but y’all are the masters of that shyt with Biggie and Bad Boy.

I see you get irritated but im not attacking Pac

in the same way I would beg Biggie not to be arrogant and doing the L.A tour, I would beg Pac not to attack Orlando on some gang shyt.

 

[spliz]

I see you get irritated but im not attacking Pac

in the same way I would beg Biggie not to be arrogant and doing the L.A tour, I would beg Pac not to attack Orlando on some gang shyt.

He didn’t attack Orlando on some gang shyt and everyone who was close to Pac at the time has said this over and over. It was Death Row/Bad Boy shyt.

 

[Roovers410]

He didn’t attack Orlando on some gang shyt and everyone who was close to Pac at the time has said this over and over. It was Death Row/Bad Boy shyt.

No!

hé attacked Orlando , because the ssc attacked Travon Lane , and hè told Pac that Orlando was the one. At that moment he involved himself in the gang shyt. The chain rumor doesnt change this.

 

[spliz]

No!

hé attacked Orlando , because the ssc attacked Travon Lane , and hè told Pac that Orlando was the one. At that moment he involved himself in the gang shyt. The chain rumor doesnt change this.

SSCC attacked Trayvon Lane because allegedly Bad Boy used them to put a bounty out on Death Row chains. That was the word. And that’s what Death Row believed. Baby Lane allegedly tried to rob Trayvon. That shyt was Death Row business to Pac. Not gangbanging. Actually using the gang to put a bounty on chains is gang banging. And the gang nikkas said they was supposed to be paid by Puff to do more to Pac than take a chain. THATS gangbanging as well ain’t it? But let’s ignore all that tho.

 

[Roovers410]

SSCC attacked Trayvon Lane because allegedly Bad Boy used them to put a hit out on Death Row chains. That was the word. And that’s what Death Row believed. That shyt was Death Row business to Pac. Not gangbanging. Actually using the gang to put a bounty on chains is gang banging. And the gang nikkas said they was supposed to be paid by Puff to do more to Pac than take a chain. THATS gangbanging as well ain’t it? But let’s ignore all that tho.

splizz Pac got killed because of this. He attacked a certified gangster in plain sight. Whatever the reason for the fight at the mall. For the ssc Pac became a target and it got him killed. There is No way around this.

 

[Roovers410]

SSCC attacked Trayvon Lane because allegedly Bad Boy used them to put a bounty out on Death Row chains. That was the word. And that’s what Death Row believed. Baby Lane allegedly tried to rob Trayvon. That shyt was Death Row business to Pac. Not gangbanging. Actually using the gang to put a bounty on chains is gang banging. And the gang nikkas said they was supposed to be paid by Puff to do more to Pac than take a chain. THATS gangbanging as well ain’t it? But let’s ignore all that tho.

you know the bounty was a rumor that ended up not to be true right ?

 

[spliz]

splizz Pac got killed because of this. He attacked a certified gangster in plain sight. Whatever the reason for the fight at the mall. For the ssc Pac became a target and it got him killed. There is No way around this.

Pac got killed for attacking a gangster. U right. But the reasons he attacked that nikka is what differentiates it between gangbanging. Pac attacking the Hughes Brothers couldve been considered gangbanging technically. Being that a gang was involved. But regardless. Pac always did emotional shyt that wasn’t always the wisest decisions to make. He literally almost got himself killed on the Digital Underground tour plenty of times cause he was a hot head. Death Row fed into it versus reeling him in like the people who cared about him would do prior to aligning himself with Death Row.

 

[spliz]

you know the bounty was a rumor that ended up not to be true right ?

Plenty nikkas in the streets get killed over rumors. What do that matter for 1996? It’s 2022. Unfortunately nikkas felt that was the truth back then. Doesnt help that Biggie was seemingly bragging about it on a bunch of songs after Pac got killed.

 

[Renzo]

@Cladyclad @ucanthandlethetruth @Fatha Shango literally in shambles typing every type of excuse, I'm literally dying

The simple logic is this.. if Pac supposedly lying when this was all going on close to a year.. why did NOBODY call him out on these “lies” when they had as big a platform as he did to do so.... you’d think if a guy is accusing you of setting him up or at least being aware and you got all this stuff to the contrary it’d be easy to just call him out in any magazine, radio, etc. yet Biggie nor none of them did in ANY interview or could they keep a straight story.. I mean they even had the mixtape with puffy running his mouth and at no point did he say “ aha nikka stop lying you shot yourself” ..they never called him a liar once.. all they could ever muster was “Pac know who shot him blah blah” as if that was ever a point of contention..he said himself who was behind it..yet they want you to believe they never participated in the beef at all when that’s an obvious lie to anyone with ears..