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In new york? I doubt it seriously. How come he didnt get arrested.
nikka... unless her mama is signing paperwork allowing her to be fukked...... you being over 18, are going directly under the jail, for fukking with someone under 18

SOME states say if you dated when you were both under 18, or even in 3 years of age, then it's ok... but at NO time will a 70 year old man, fukk a girl under 18, and it not be a felony crime


they didn't arrest him cause there wasn't any evidence and they could care less about black kids.... let him have fukked some 17 year old white girls tho... plus they'd need a little thing called evidence... malcolm saying it's true, didn't make it court case ready.. also i don't know if it was law THEN

it is definitely a law now tho
 
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nikka... unless her mama is signing paperwork allowing her to be fukked...... you being over 18, are going directly under the jail, for fukking with someone under 18

SOME states say if you dated when you were both under 18, or even in 3 years of age, then it's ok... but at NO time will a 70 year old man, fukk a girl under 18, and it not be a felony crime


they didn't arrest him cause there wasn't any evidence and they could care less about black kids.... let him have fukked some 17 year old white girls tho... plus they'd need a little thing called evidence... malcolm saying it's true, didn't make it court case ready.. also i don't know if it was law THEN

it is definitely a law now tho





man, ya'll stupid.

If Malcolm saying it's true didn't make it court ready, then why are you trotting it out here like it's fact?

Malcolm's mouth wasn't no prayer book.

And you acknowledge yourself that him saying it doesn't make it true.

So what in the world are you talking about?
 

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Lol the NOI was not a "fringe movement" at the time. Before Malcolm signed his own death certificate , the number of people following the Nation was increasing at a rapid pace.I would love to see any sort of evidence of Elijah being "jealous" of Malcolm's popularity. Malcolm being popular meant more exposure for the movement and a heightened consciousness for black America.Why else would he have made him the spokesperson? Elijah created this individual and presented him to the world. People cling to this notion of Elijah being a jealous old man because of Spike Lee's movie and not anything rooted in reality. Malcolm was suspended for disobeying direct orders. The last thing Elijah wanted to do was be on the front page of the newspaper for disparaging one of the most beloved presidents in U.S. history. How did those inflammatory statements help the movement?

Muhammad Ali did not turn on anyone. Ali stayed true to his religion and his beliefs. Malcolm X was not Ali's God and he owed him nothing. Malcolm was a reformed drug addict , thief , womanizing ,prostitute steering hustler. Why are his transgressions forgivable and Elijah's alleged improprieties intractable? Elijah devoted his life to pulling women off the streets and teaching them knowledge of self! I implore you to re-evaluate your stance. If you read X's autobiography you'll find some truth. X resented , and never got over Elijah dismissing his brother from the NOI for sexual transgressions-- he said this himself. I would never speak about a man that saved my life in the manner that Malcolm did-- it was disgusting.

dikk Gregory said in the film "Soulfood Junkies," his mother was an old stubborn Christian woman , who would never be anything but a Christian , but she modified her diet based on the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Malcolm prefaced everything he said with "The honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us" Let us not forget the power of this man and his movement.

thanks breh, forgot to respond to that statement but you took care of it.

People base all their opinions on a movie. :wow:


And I'm 100% in agreement with you. Even if you decide you don't want to be a part of this any more, you don't turn around and start trying to tear down the one that saved your life and took all the bad out your life.

He could have just walked away, but he decided to turn around and try to attack the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

He had no honor, none at all. When his test of character came, he showed that at his core, he was still the same liar, criminal, thief and everything else.


But of course he's propped up to us as a hero by white America.


I know people don't like that, but that's the reality of what happened.

So according to y'all....Malcolm knew what Elijah was up to the whole time....saw that he was willing to not only engage in hypocritical acts, but punish close people to him for their own acts....decided that he would turn against him despite the fact that he changed his life...because right is right and wrong is wrong...and he's a traitor because of this?

:patrice:

Doesn't the fact that he doesn't want to be a part of evil but held on to the positive teachings Elijah Muhammad and Islam brought him make him....better? No...:yeshrug:
 

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man, ya'll stupid.

If Malcolm saying it's true didn't make it court ready, then why are you trotting it out here like it's fact?

Malcolm's mouth wasn't no prayer book.

And you acknowledge yourself that him saying it doesn't make it true.

So what in the world are you talking about?
if you scroll back brother, i never said it was fact... i actually asked the question to the OP cause he has so much info.. after that, many of people are saying, yes it was true, but lets sweep that under the rug

i don't sweep sleeping with kids, under any damn rug


i don't know if he did it or not as of right now.. you'd have to start breaking out dna tests on the kids and shyt... all i'm saying is IF he did murder black men who opposed him and fukk black children... then fukk whatever good he's done in the end... that type of shyt is unforgivable
 

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that ether :wow:

how you love black people and murdering black people... how come the nation wasn't out there assinating white cops and politicians?

how you love black people and you fukking underaged little black girls?



this goes to what i said before about mlk... nobody is all good or all bad... so stop trying to change history

while i've learned a lot reading this thread... that all sounds good until you find out he was killing blacks and fukking little kids

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I fukking hate CACS soo much, when are they all going to be destroyed. they need to go.
 

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I dont see what is the connection between NOI, Elijah Muhammad Fard etc and the Quran and the Hadiths? Explain? Theres literally hundreds of things in the Quran that go against the NOI so how can that be Islam?


This question is quite abstract, and condescendingly attempts to dissociate the Nation of Islam from whatever form of Islam you are familiar with.
I'll say this, the prophet most mentioned in the Holy Qur'an is the biblical Moses. Moses taught freedom justice and equality through separation of his people from a wicked ruler and his empire. The people, the message and the mission of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad are very much in line with that of the biblical Moses; the most often spoke of prophet in the holy book of the muslims.
 

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This question is quite abstract, and condescendingly attempts to dissociate the Nation of Islam from whatever form of Islam you are familiar with.
I'll say this, the prophet most mentioned in the Holy Qur'an is the biblical Moses. Moses taught freedom justice and equality through separation of his people from a wicked ruler and his empire. The people, the message and the mission of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad are very much in line with that of the biblical Moses; the most often spoke of prophet in the holy book of the muslims.
The prophet most mentioned in Islam is pretty inconsequential. While there are some similarities between NOI and Islam, NOI is not a form or branch of Islam whatsoever...

The scientist Yakub etc white people being the devil all goes against the Quran. The mother wheel all these other recent ideas introduced by the NOI have nothing to do with the Quran
 

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The prophet most mentioned in Islam is pretty inconsequential. While there are some similarities between NOI and Islam, NOI is not a form or branch of Islam whatsoever...

The scientist Yakub etc white people being the devil all goes against the Quran. The mother wheel all these other recent ideas introduced by the NOI have nothing to do with the Quran

Its obvious you are a closed minded, unlearned worshiper, and you are drunk with a religion that you never really took the Time to understand.
Allah made a covenant with all the prophets, so when you say that the mentioning of Moses is "inconsequential," you are going against the Holy Qur'an.

Ch. 2:30-32 ...I am going to place a ruler in the earth...Wilt Thou place in it such as make mischief in it and shed blood?...
This here is referencing of the making of white people. Most scholars agree that at best white people have only been around 10,000 years

I'm pretty certain that you don't know anything about what Elijah Muhammad taught about the wheel to even be commenting on it, besides to make a mockery of it

Its very sad that someone that is Black and lives in the west (I'm assuming these to be the case) and is a Muslim, is so opposed to the notion that Allah has a message specific to the Black man and woman in the west. As if we are not deserving of one, as if we don't need it
 
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