23 year old Muhammad Ali vs 23 Year old Jon Jones in a street fight

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Jon Jones.


It's a street fight, not a boxing match.


MMA is more versatile and, therefore, more adept at handling the countless uncontrollable and unpredictable variables of a street fight, than boxing is.

Do not for one second, though, allow this to make you think that boxing is anything less than extremely effective in a street fight. :ufdup:

It's just not "as" effective as MMA, if the two are being weighed against one another under those conditions.
 
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Jon Jones.


It's a street fight, not a boxing match.


MMA is more versatile and more adept at handling the countless uncontrollable and unpredictable variables of a street fight, than boxing is.

Do not for one second make you think that boxing is anything short of extremely effective in a street fight, though. :ufdup:

It's just not "as" effective as MMA, if the two are being weighed against one another under those conditions.
I think Ali has a chance if he learns take down defense and is fast enough to evade kicks and those vicious oblique kicks.
 

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I think Ali has a chance if he learns take down defense and is fast enough to evade kicks and those vicious oblique kicks.

Breh, if you're going to start adding in all kinds of "bububuts" and "what if's", then the possibilities become endless, rendering this thread virtually pointless. :yawn:
 

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ali,

jon jones admits mike tyson would kill him


Tyson grew up fighting in the streets though. Dude is a savage and street fighting is his element. Him and Ali's chances of beating Jones in a street fight are not the same. Ali was a highly skilled boxer but being skilled in the ring/cage doesn't necessarily mean one is going to be beast in the streets, although a trained person will always have a distinct advantage over an unskilled person regardless. I have Jones beating Ali simply because he's more well rounded. Ali shyts on Jones in boxing, but Jones shyts on Ali in everything else.
 

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All respect due to Ali one of the GOAT, but he would have no chance on the ground, and his boxing skills standing would not shine as much against someone as varied as Jones.

Not all MMA fighters would have a chance, though.
 
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Breh, if you're going to start adding in all kinds of "bububuts" and "what if's", then the possibilities become endless, rendering this thread virtually pointless. :yawn:
No I'm just bringing up a good strategy for Ali. Just saying he's a really skilled boxer really diverse he's kind of like the Jon Jones of his generation be rarly fights anyone up close and utilizes his reach and diverse style. That's why I think this fight would be interesting they're almost like parallels to each other. Of course each fighter before nearing each other in the street are going to work on what they need to beat the other.
 
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Tyson grew up fighting in the streets though. Dude is a savage and street fighting is his element. Him and Ali's chances of beating Jones in a street fight are not the same. Ali was a highly skilled boxer but being skilled in the ring/cage doesn't necessarily mean one is going to be beast in the streets, although a trained person will always have a distinct advantage over an unskilled person regardless. I have Jones beating Ali simply because he's more well rounded. Ali shyts on Jones in boxing, but Jones shyts on Ali in everything else.

You don't know anything about Ali

Ali in his early 20's was a supreme athlete on some roy jones shyt, he would kick Tyson's ass

Ali wasn't even touchable until after he was on the shelf for 3 years and near 30 year olds

jon jones just lacks the skill and coordination to deal with someone like that seriously

also boxing skill is all you need to end a street fight in a few seconds

also what makes you think a boxer would follow boxing rules in a street fight when they break the rules in the ring all the time
 
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You don't know anything about Ali

Ali in his early 20's was a supreme athlete on some roy jones shyt, he would kick Tyson's ass

Ali wasn't even touchable until after he was on the shelf for 3 years and near 30 year olds

jon jones just lacks the skill and coordination to deal with someone like that seriously

also boxing skill is all you need to end a street fight in a few seconds

also what makes you think a boxer would follow boxing rules in a street fight when they break the rules in the ring all the time
In the ring no doubt James Tillis tried to bite off Ali's style and only half did it and make Tyson look like shyt.
 

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No I'm just bringing up a good strategy for Ali. Just saying he's a really skilled boxer really diverse he's kind of like the Jon Jones of his generation he rarly fights anyone up close and utilizes his reach and diverse style. That's why I think this fight would be interesting they're almost like parallels to each other. Of course each fighter before nearing each other in the street are going to work on what they need to beat the other.

No disrespect, but you're not really this stupid are you breh? :comeon:

They aren't remotely "parallels of each other". Not in size, not in strengths, not in height, not in fighting.

Furthermore, how the hell you figure Ali's reach would be a factor? :mjlol:

You coli n!ggas talk outcha asses more than yall sh!t outta them.

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Nickname(s)
The Greatest
The People's Champion
The Louisville Lip
Rated at Heavyweight
Height 6 ft 3 in (191 cm)[1]
Reach: 78 in (198 cm)



Born Jonathan Dwight Jones[1][2]
July 19, 1987 (age 28)[3]
Rochester, New York, United States[4]
Other names Bones[5]
Height 6 ft 4 in (193 cm)[5][8]
Weight 205 lb (93 kg; 14.6 st)[9]
Reach: 84.5 in (215 cm)[5]


"butbutbut Ali's jab :mjcry: "

fukk Ali's reach. He'll be eating these the entire time trying to step in so that he can "jab" :mjlol:
joneskicksrampage640_large.jpg
 

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Fighters get better as time goes on. Tyson said it as well. But Tyson always had the respect for Muhammad not to say he would have beaten him :wow: That said Ali and the boxers of that age struggled badly against catch wrestlers, let alone a 2010's MMA genius like Jon Jones.
 
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No disrespect, but you're not really this stupid are you breh? :comeon:

They aren't remotely "parallels of each other". Not in size, not in strengths, not in height, not in fighting.

Furthermore, how the hell you figure Ali's reach would be a factor? :mjlol:

You coli n!ggas talk outcha asses more than yall sh!t outta them.

Ali in 1967
Statistics
Nickname(s)
The Greatest
The People's Champion
The Louisville Lip
Rated at Heavyweight
Height 6 ft 3 in (191 cm)[1]
Reach: 78 in (198 cm)



Born Jonathan Dwight Jones[1][2]
July 19, 1987 (age 28)[3]
Rochester, New York, United States[4]
Other names Bones[5]
Height 6 ft 4 in (193 cm)[5][8]
Weight 205 lb (93 kg; 14.6 st)[9]
Reach: 84.5 in (215 cm)[5]


"butbutbut Ali's jab :mjcry: "

fukk Ali's reach. He'll be eating these the entire time trying to step in so that he can "jab" :mjlol:
joneskicksrampage640_large.jpg

Jon was getting tagged by gus who is an amateur boxer with as short reach

Jon Jones doesn't even know how to jab lmao and he's punches are terrible uncoordinated, fight wouldn't last long, he's not even the best athlete in his family and admits his brother would beat him up

like how mike tyson easily got inside jon jones reach before jones could close the distance on him he was first

MMA fighters are not the athletes like that

Ali wouldn't even stand in front jones

who talking about 23 year old ali, who's the fastest quickest big man on his feet in history

you don't understand fighting at all

just like the idiots who think ronda rousey tried to strike with ronda lmao
 
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Fighters get better as time goes on. Tyson said it as well. But Tyson always had the respect for Muhammad not to say he would have beaten him :wow: That said Ali and the boxers of that age struggled badly against catch wrestlers, let alone a 2010's MMA genius like Jon Jones.

Based on what

Deontary Wilder beat up a crew of MMA guys and he is far far below the skill of Ali
 
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