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This. His dumbass fans are quiet af now6ix9ine snitching is extra dishonorable because he acted like he ran New York and was the biggest gangster around. Begged people to "test his gangster". But he joined a gang at age 21 and snitched them all out 1 year later. If he wasn't about that life he shouldn't have been putting on that act.
So many dudes on here swore 6ix9ine was "for the culture" and that he "takes no Ls"![]()
I've been wanting to say this shyt but ain't have the time to write it all...21 is clearly an actor, I never bought this nikka is the type nikka he say he is..
Atlanta a strange place. There's some real thugs and some real hustlers from Atlanta, but there is a BUNCH of acyors, on both sexes. It's like people know that there is an Atlanta image and you have to live up to it. Atlanta is also a very connected place, everybody know somebody, so everybody trying to impress each other...
I really don't like Atlanta. It's easy to spot the pretenders, even when you around them and they bread. I respect the real ones I net, though...
Far as the snitching, I'm done with that topic. Everybody who never did any time seem to believe everybody snitches if facing numbers. Not the truty, but whatever floats your boat. We all know a BUNCH of people snitch. You can't mischaracterize it as everyone though. I'm cool on that topic, but for the record, I don't believe nothing about 21. Of course I think he'll tell something...
I've been wanting to say this shyt but ain't have the time to write it all...
It just feels like these ATL nikkaz that nikkaz think are tough or thorough, dnt seem thorough... they seem very soft, and an outlandish characterization of what ppl think a tough gangsta is... (but to be fair, I could see p*ssy in 69 but I could tell Shotti was a grimey street nikka)
It's just an energy thing
I can look at 21 dude and u can just tell.
He probly sold drugs, probly held a couple guns... but he ain't no nikka that can be around wolves that I know and command respect.
Maybe I'm talking about the slight difference between being a "Real gangsta and a Real Man".
@murksiderock who you think is the real gangsters or thorough nikkaz that rap I think Philadelphia has the most thorough rappers Ar-AB, Dark Lo, Skinnyme (he’s a demon) Rip Dex Osama he’s a Detroit nikka, I’m 27 I’m 1 year older than 21 so you gotta put things in perspective as far as the new generation is concerned, 21 comes off as a try hard, but I honestly think he was shooting shyt because he’s been co-signed for that reason and even meek said when he first met savage he was trapping, in my personal experience being in the street i would consider myself a stand up nikka that commands respect, I made movies and put in pain but that’s not the reputation that precedes me, I think 21 reputation is that of a shooter, now I’ve been around numerous shooters and I’ve put hands on shooters and been shot at as a result, so in my experience shooters are not always the most THOROUGH, they are the most RECKLESS, 21 seems like an impulsive reckless kinda nikka IMO
Atlanta is more Hollywood than actual Hollywood, or at the least, it's a black Hollywood. Everything in Atlanta is about who you know, what you drive, how much money you got, drugs you sold, which popping bytches did you fukk, who did you beef with, where do you live, etc. I mean, hip hop culture in general is superficial and there are elements of these characteristics in other cities, but there is a premium on this shyt in the A. The women are in character too, it's just one big, nauseating caricature of black stereotypes. I can't stand Atlanta....
I'm 29, I'll be 30 this summer. I don't know much about the Philly scene but I def heard Ar-ab and Darklo were official. Here is my perspective though, and I ain't saying it's wrong or right, but it is what shapes my views...
I am a natural people reader, something that goes back to childhood. I guess somewhere along the way somebody taught me to watch body language and people's eyes, among other methods, to gauge a person's sincerity or true intent. So being that I've done that for so long, it isn't planned, it's an instinct. I haven't always followed my instincts, but never have I listened to my instinct and been wrong. I have disregarded my instinct many times in what people were showing me, and it came back to bite me each time...
As a byproduct of my own experience, I have a good gauge on someone's g status. Not a perfect one, and certainly I can't factually apply it to 21 because I never been around dude. But I got a pretty good measure of the temperature automatically if no one says alot, just by being around them (whether streets or incarcerated). When nikkas do talk alot, it heightens the senses, because there is a reason you want people to think or know you a gangsta. In fairness, alot of gangsts run their mouths, but again it's the way people talk, how they talk about criminal lifestyle, how they act around other real or perceived gangsters reveals alot. I can't describe it, maybe you or others here know what I'm saying if you have a similar perception...
I've been watching 21 in interviews for three years or so now. Never been believable to the extent he wants to be believed, and it's all in his language, his responses to questions asked, his volunteering info for questions that weren't asked. It doesn't help that most people, including nikkas on here, are sold with 99% of the nikkas they see with guns or have the "look" of a gangsta. Looks and guns don't move me, and I'm sure thru your own experiences you understand that. Real ones come in all kinda packages. And it doesn't help that his validation has always come from a nikka like No Plug. Another SQUARE. Again, people are sold soon as they see you holding a knot or heard you clipped somebody...
You been around, just as I have. Catching a body doesn't mean a nikka really bout that action. Having money or being a real trap nikka definitely doesn't mean it. I pay attention when nikkas talk, and again, some gangsters love broadcasting and talking, but you gotta pay attention to when nikkas talk, it's how they speak and interact and respond. No Plug bout that money for real but he definitely not a gangster from the soil. It's something I guess you gotta be familiar with the intricacies of criminal lifestyle to be able to tell...
Back to 21, he was gang affiliated and affiliated with trappers, so I don't doubt he was around the shyt and got his hands dirty. That's not what he says though, his imagery is a coordinated and planned effort to be viewed as a straight up g. I don't believe that for a second. Somebody need to find that video from a few years ago when he was at a shooting range, the whole thing seemed like a ploy to tell everybody to think he a g, like "look at me shooting" lol. Even pulling out on nikkas at the picnic last year or whenever, looked more like an act than a nikka ready to knock something. It didn't look natural. I believe he been around guns and handled em because guns aren't hard to find (definitely not hard to find in Atlanta). I can believe he's even shot at or clipped somebody. I don't think he's a shooter for real, I don't think he really was knocking shyt down, and one thing I know about Atlanta, alota then nikkas will tell you the next nikka with the shyts and neither one of them are really with the shyts. Or one if em standing up for his homeboy. Or a nikka really don't know the other guy well, he just telling you what someone else or the other guy himself told you...
This is what i mean when i say most of them Atlanta nikkas be "in character". Gotta represent a certain way, and it ain't always about gunplay, its bytches, cars, money, etc. nikkas will rent a Maserati and tell you its theirs and tell you what they bought it for, etc...
You absolutely right, shooters not always the most thorough. I don't find 21 to be thorough or that reckless, and I've believed that the entire time. People will believe otherwise and I respect the right to opinion. Nobody from Atlanta on here knows him any better than I do from what I can tell, so they all going off what nikkas said or their opinion too. But I don't believe him, and just for me, my intuition has been really accurate on nikkas throughout my life...
U got that same energy gauge I got bro...Atlanta is more Hollywood than actual Hollywood, or at the least, it's a black Hollywood. Everything in Atlanta is about who you know, what you drive, how much money you got, drugs you sold, which popping bytches did you fukk, who did you beef with, where do you live, etc. I mean, hip hop culture in general is superficial and there are elements of these characteristics in other cities, but there is a premium on this shyt in the A. The women are in character too, it's just one big, nauseating caricature of black stereotypes. I can't stand Atlanta....
I'm 29, I'll be 30 this summer. I don't know much about the Philly scene but I def heard Ar-ab and Darklo were official. Here is my perspective though, and I ain't saying it's wrong or right, but it is what shapes my views...
I am a natural people reader, something that goes back to childhood. I guess somewhere along the way somebody taught me to watch body language and people's eyes, among other methods, to gauge a person's sincerity or true intent. So being that I've done that for so long, it isn't planned, it's an instinct. I haven't always followed my instincts, but never have I listened to my instinct and been wrong. I have disregarded my instinct many times in what people were showing me, and it came back to bite me each time...
As a byproduct of my own experience, I have a good gauge on someone's g status. Not a perfect one, and certainly I can't factually apply it to 21 because I never been around dude. But I got a pretty good measure of the temperature automatically if no one says alot, just by being around them (whether streets or incarcerated). When nikkas do talk alot, it heightens the senses, because there is a reason you want people to think or know you a gangsta. In fairness, alot of gangsts run their mouths, but again it's the way people talk, how they talk about criminal lifestyle, how they act around other real or perceived gangsters reveals alot. I can't describe it, maybe you or others here know what I'm saying if you have a similar perception...
I've been watching 21 in interviews for three years or so now. Never been believable to the extent he wants to be believed, and it's all in his language, his responses to questions asked, his volunteering info for questions that weren't asked. It doesn't help that most people, including nikkas on here, are sold with 99% of the nikkas they see with guns or have the "look" of a gangsta. Looks and guns don't move me, and I'm sure thru your own experiences you understand that. Real ones come in all kinda packages. And it doesn't help that his validation has always come from a nikka like No Plug. Another SQUARE. Again, people are sold soon as they see you holding a knot or heard you clipped somebody...
You been around, just as I have. Catching a body doesn't mean a nikka really bout that action. Having money or being a real trap nikka definitely doesn't mean it. I pay attention when nikkas talk, and again, some gangsters love broadcasting and talking, but you gotta pay attention to when nikkas talk, it's how they speak and interact and respond. No Plug bout that money for real but he definitely not a gangster from the soil. It's something I guess you gotta be familiar with the intricacies of criminal lifestyle to be able to tell...
Back to 21, he was gang affiliated and affiliated with trappers, so I don't doubt he was around the shyt and got his hands dirty. That's not what he says though, his imagery is a coordinated and planned effort to be viewed as a straight up g. I don't believe that for a second. Somebody need to find that video from a few years ago when he was at a shooting range, the whole thing seemed like a ploy to tell everybody to think he a g, like "look at me shooting" lol. Even pulling out on nikkas at the picnic last year or whenever, looked more like an act than a nikka ready to knock something. It didn't look natural. I believe he been around guns and handled em because guns aren't hard to find (definitely not hard to find in Atlanta). I can believe he's even shot at or clipped somebody. I don't think he's a shooter for real, I don't think he really was knocking shyt down, and one thing I know about Atlanta, alota then nikkas will tell you the next nikka with the shyts and neither one of them are really with the shyts. Or one if em standing up for his homeboy. Or a nikka really don't know the other guy well, he just telling you what someone else or the other guy himself told you...
This is what i mean when i say most of them Atlanta nikkas be "in character". Gotta represent a certain way, and it ain't always about gunplay, its bytches, cars, money, etc. nikkas will rent a Maserati and tell you its theirs and tell you what they bought it for, etc...
You absolutely right, shooters not always the most thorough. I don't find 21 to be thorough or that reckless, and I've believed that the entire time. People will believe otherwise and I respect the right to opinion. Nobody from Atlanta on here knows him any better than I do from what I can tell, so they all going off what nikkas said or their opinion too. But I don't believe him, and just for me, my intuition has been really accurate on nikkas throughout my life...
U got that same energy gauge I got bro...
Theres a vid somebody posted, I'm thinking its rick Ross party or something. alot of hip hop ppl there... and I think it was casanovas ig.... and he was talking to 21 about his jewelry... kinda touching his chains and shyt...
Now I dnt know how well these 2 niggsz know each other... and 21 sav could be classified as a str8 gangsta in atl...
But his energy in that clip was basically, imo, "Food"...
Cas would not be touching 50 cent like that.... Nd 50 would not be acting like that... like awww shucks...
Right then in that vid, It confirmed what I already knew about basically all them niggsz... they just acting how they think gangstaz act...
Put them around certain niggsz, that energy flys right out the window
Visceral Intuition is a very underrated characteristic in the street, and it will save you alot of problems if you can read people and gauge their body language. i know plenty of shooters or nikkaz that caught peteys that wasnt thorough like that, matter fact i know a nikka named fredo who was snitching migrated to my hood from harlem here in the bronx and he took a picture with the homies, a nikka that was in the feds with one of the homies recognized the nikka & hit my homie in the inbox & told him he was HOT, now initially the kid seemed solid and he vehemently denied the allegations at first, but nikkaz eventually ended up getting the papaerwork because my mans was in the feds & in the feds nikkaz take snitching extremely serious because alot of nikkaz take 5k.1 or Rule 35B motions and be covertly working and actively looking for cases to put on nikkaz, so it comes out the nikka snitching apparently some nikka shot at him and his little brother while he was with his mother but he was 15 at the time so he wrote the statement but his mother signed it because he was a minor so he tried to blame his moms but nikkaz wasnt jacking , i gotta funny story about that im going to touch on inna second, so anyway the nikka end up going into hiding, but peep he goes to the club & kills a cab driver after an argument & his mans he was with snitches on him like 2 months later, he is currently facing 2nd degree murder charges
So one day im on the block and we posted on the corner and one of the homies had his mans with him and keeps staring at me & i peep, he eventually tells me i look familiar and starts asking me mad questions, if i was ever up north or if i have cousins from harlem etc... so he eventually asked me about the nikka fredo and me being perceptive i told him yes but i didn't say anything negative because i don't know if he got beef with the nikka or if hes family, so he goes yeah that's my mans i grew up with him etc i say you know he snitching right? he goes yeah i heard about that but he was only 15 when that happened, so i laugh out loud and say it doesn't count right? all the homies start dying laughing lol nikkaz clowned that nikka all day , i could tell he was embarrassed and regretted asking me that
But i guess my question would be who do you think is an official thorough industry nikka that raps? i think your assessment of Atlanta & 21 is on the money, because Atlanta literally accepts everybody, Gucci, Jeezy, Luda, Migos, 21, Zaytoven, Metro Boomin, Waka Flocka, all them nikkaz not even from the city and they welcomed them with open arms, so the superficial image obsessed element seems like an accurate evaluation, so you think the average Atlanta nikka is frauding and just presenting an image of themselves they think would be accepted? like they just doing what they think "Real nikkaz" Or "Bad bytches" is supposed to be doing?
Visceral Intuition is a very underrated characteristic in the street, and it will save you alot of problems if you can read people and gauge their body language. i know plenty of shooters or nikkaz that caught peteys that wasnt thorough like that, matter fact i know a nikka named fredo who was snitching migrated to my hood from harlem here in the bronx and he took a picture with the homies, a nikka that was in the feds with one of the homies recognized the nikka & hit my homie in the inbox & told him he was HOT, now initially the kid seemed solid and he vehemently denied the allegations at first, but nikkaz eventually ended up getting the papaerwork because my mans was in the feds & in the feds nikkaz take snitching extremely serious because alot of nikkaz take 5k.1 or Rule 35B motions and be covertly working and actively looking for cases to put on nikkaz, so it comes out the nikka snitching apparently some nikka shot at him and his little brother while he was with his mother but he was 15 at the time so he wrote the statement but his mother signed it because he was a minor so he tried to blame his moms but nikkaz wasnt jacking , i gotta funny story about that im going to touch on inna second, so anyway the nikka end up going into hiding, but peep he goes to the club & kills a cab driver after an argument & his mans he was with snitches on him like 2 months later, he is currently facing 2nd degree murder charges
So one day im on the block and we posted on the corner and one of the homies had his mans with him and keeps staring at me & i peep, he eventually tells me i look familiar and starts asking me mad questions, if i was ever up north or if i have cousins from harlem etc... so he eventually asked me about the nikka fredo and me being perceptive i told him yes but i didn't say anything negative because i don't know if he got beef with the nikka or if hes family, so he goes yeah that's my mans i grew up with him etc i say you know he snitching right? he goes yeah i heard about that but he was only 15 when that happened, so i laugh out loud and say it doesn't count right? all the homies start dying laughing lol nikkaz clowned that nikka all day , i could tell he was embarrassed and regretted asking me that
But i guess my question would be who do you think is an official thorough industry nikka that raps? i think your assessment of Atlanta & 21 is on the money, because Atlanta literally accepts everybody, Gucci, Jeezy, Luda, Migos, 21, Zaytoven, Metro Boomin, Waka Flocka, all them nikkaz not even from the city and they welcomed them with open arms, so the superficial image obsessed element seems like an accurate evaluation, so you think the average Atlanta nikka is frauding and just presenting an image of themselves they think would be accepted? like they just doing what they think "Real nikkaz" Or "Bad bytches" is supposed to be doing?