2024 United States Presidential Election Megathread

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I want to know what lessons will be learned from this, if any. Trump has killed your parent's version of the Republican Party, broke it into a million pieces and no idea how to make it right again. My dream of the Republican Party being just a regional party will be realized in two days. Make no mistake about it, the fact that a Black and Indian woman is about to win the presidency is, in many ways, an indictment on the current state of the Republican Party. They've lost people for a generation. For what? A carnival charlatan. The true believers are going to double down on the crazy. GOP civil wars playing out in real time on Fox, Newsmax and the other bullshyt stations. Their dysfunction will be laid bare for all to see. At this moment, Kamala's going to have as much momentum as a president will ever have in our lifetime. I sincerely hope she uses that mandate and drives a fukking stake through the barely beating heart of the GOP.

fukk them as a staff, record label and as a motherfukking crew.

 

[WaveMolecules]

Brah your a spitting image of a lib.... accept the fact people have differences without getting so but hurt. The left left me behind and the center left isn't much better at this point

ANY other election i would agree with you. shyt, any other election i could be convinced that the GOP nominee might be worth my vote.

but in 2024, after 10 years of Trump garbage brain rot, there is no realm where i can vote for him and anyone who does IMO is either ignorant or evil.

 

[Micky Mikey]

 

[TheJet]

Trump out here teething on mic-diccs

 

[JLova]

A gay white woman rationalizing voting for Trump.

 

[Mister Terrific]

I don’t agree with him but this isn’t accurate

Christian conservativism the way we know it now began with Reagan and the moral majority. That’s where the anti-lgbt, pro-life, Blacks are drug addicts and welfare queens crap comes from. Before then abortion was not a political tent pole of the Republican Party.

He doesn’t like Don

Nah he loves him and probably sees himself in him.

It’s those “Trump gave us them checks “ ass nikkas I can’t stand

Why? That’s more rational than what the fukk your barber is talking about. Someone saying “Trump gonna cut the check” is dumb but it makes more sense if it’s tied to actual physical rewards than just hating gays and thinking Trump has any control over whether a gay person is gonna be on tv Next time challenge him and ask where in the Bible it says abortion is wrong.


Bros cuts must be for you to listen to that babble

 

[Ill-Yaz]

We all know who the hood nikkaz are voting for

 

[Ish Gibor]

Corny ass nikka.

From one corny ass nikka to another. Corny ass nikkas rule.

 

[Arizax2]

ANY other election i would agree with you. shyt, any other election i could be convinced that the GOP nominee might be worth my vote.

but in 2024, after 10 years of Trump garbage brain rot, there is no realm where i can vote for him and anyone who does IMO is either ignorant or evil.

I thought the same until last week....the Harris campaign refusal to allow her to do long form interviews such as the Rogan show is disrespectful for those that don't want to hear talking points for 25 min and running down the clock. shyt look at Vance jumping on the Rogan show and coming off like a real human being. This atleast was a golden opportunity for Waltz to kill this type of segment but nope the Harris campaign only wanted 1 hr and Rogan had to fly to them. Even her Shay Shay interview is the shortest full interview on his page and again it was only an hour.

I grew tired of the dems BS on alot of things recently and the level of entitlement they have with loyal voters. I'm sorry but I'm done with giving them an automatic vote without them working for it. Could I get an answer on how she plans on building 3 million homes and where would they be? How is giving folks 25k for a down payment for a house not gona cause home prices from going up 25k? Can she explain how she plans on mitigating potential job losses when she hikes the corporate rate back to 28%. These are just some of the questions I have that I would like even a fluff answer for but can't seem to get anything but quick talking points and how terrible Trump is.

The one thing for sure is the Republicans and Trump hate taxes. So I expect them to follow through with atleast their tax plan and honestly them wanting to stop taxing social security recipients is a damn good thing and surprising we ever allowed it to happen in the first place. This directly puts extra $ in my parents pocket. This is just one of the plans that got me to switch over after I turned off the MSNBC of the world and just read the damn plans directly from the candidates website....

 

[Mister Terrific]

I grew tired of the dems BS on alot of things recently and the level of entitlement they have with loyal voters. I'm sorry but I'm done with giving them an automatic vote without them working for it. Could I get an answer on how she plans on building 3 million homes and where would they be? How is giving folks 25k for a down payment for a house not gona cause home prices from going up 25k? Can she explain how she plans on mitigating potential job losses when she hikes the corporate rate back to 28%. These are just some of the questions I have that I would like even a fluff answer for but can't seem to get anything but quick talking points and how terrible Trump is.

I love how “Kamala’s entitlements will cause a negative impact on this thing” but Trumps entitlement programs I.e. tax cuts that had an extremely negative impact on the economy don’t concern you. Never mind his tariff plan that is proven bad economics.

Just say you c00nin this time around just to try it, like a white girl being lesbian in college. Stop acting like you making some high minded decision.

The one thing for sure is the Republicans and Trump hate taxes. This is just one of the plans that got me to switch over after I turned off the MSNBC of the world

The truth about Donald Trump's tax and tariff plans​

Tariffs can't actually replace income and corporate taxes, and more to know about how Trump's plans would effect the economy

The new Trump tax cuts​

Don’t expect any new tax cuts to actually stimulate the economy. Greg Daco, chief economist at the consulting firm Ernst & Young, noted in an interview that tax cuts rarely pay for themselves. “That’s the dirty little secret,” Daco said. “The notion that if you cut taxes the revenue is going to be offset by stronger economic activity is not a reality.”

That, he said, is because the so-called “implicit effect,” the multiplier of economic activity, is generally quite low. For corporations, the multiplier is about 30 to 40 cents on the dollar, Daco said.

“If you cut taxes by a dollar you get 30 to 40 cents of additional economic activity,” he said. That may sound great, but as Daco added, “from a government perspective, you’ve lost a dollar in tax revenue and you’ve generated 30 cents of additional activity which will be taxed at 15%, or 4 1/2 cents. So you’ve lost 95 1/2 cents of revenue,” which could be used to pay for Social Security, Medicare, the military or even to pay down the national debt.

And if the existing tax cuts are extended past their 2025 expiration date, that’s not going to be good for the economy.

“If you extend the tax cuts, you get less revenue and have an increase in the debt,” Daco said. “We are running deficits of around 6% of GDP in good times. This is a concern from a fiscal standpoint and it does lead to higher interest payments on debt.”

The Trump tariffs​

We’ve looked at them before, and they are still a generally bad idea. A recent Peterson Institute study found that the tariffs would cost an average household at least $2,600 a year, and a study from Yale University’s Budget Lab found that the cost could be as high as $7,600. That’s nothing for Elon Musk or John Paulsen, two of Trump’s billionaire supporters. But for lower-income Americans, much of whose income is spent on imported goods like shirts and shoes made in China, that’s effectively a huge tax increase.

For companies that depend on imported parts or raw materials, a hike in prices and a lack of substitutes could put them out of business. A second Trump administration would basically recreate some of the effects of the pandemic’s supply chain breakdowns, but with tariffs 10 times or more higher than the first time around.

“Trump’s proposed tariffs on China ignore the realities and needs of our small businesses,” said Javier Palomarez, CEO of the United States Hispanic Business Council. “Such tariffs would increase prices for consumers, raise the cost of production for businesses, reduce sales, and decrease the employment rate.”

Basic capitalism says foreign firms won’t absorb the cost of tariffs, they’ll simply jack up prices to cover the cost of the tariffs — setting a new threshold for U.S. manufacturers, who will set their prices just as high to make as much profit as they can.

“Cutting tariffs would counter the punishing increase of the cost of living that American families are experiencing,” the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wrote in 2022, referring to Trump-era tariffs left in place by President Joe Biden. “It would also enhance the competitiveness of U.S. manufacturers, and address the unfairness of the tariff code, which hits the poor hardest.”

Tariffs are effectively a regressive sales tax, and the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that they cost the average American household more than $1,200 in 2020 alone. Contrary to popular misconception, the New York Fed wrote recently, the Trump-era tariffs, with a small add-on from Biden, “continue to be almost entirely borne by U.S. firms and consumers.”

The truth about Donald Trump's tax and tariff plans

Tariffs can't actually replace income and corporate taxes, and more to know about how Trump's plans would effect the economy

qz.com

“what about ME, ME, ME” ass MAGAT.

 

[Arizax2]

I love how “Kamala’s entitlements will cause a negative impact on this thing” but Trumps entitlement programs I.e. tax cuts that had an extremely negative impact on the economy don’t concern you. Never mind his tariff plan that is proven bad economics.

Just say you c00nin this time around just to try it, like a white girl being lesbian in college. Stop acting like you making some high minded decision.

The truth about Donald Trump's tax and tariff plans​

Tariffs can't actually replace income and corporate taxes, and more to know about how Trump's plans would effect the economy

The new Trump tax cuts​

Don’t expect any new tax cuts to actually stimulate the economy. Greg Daco, chief economist at the consulting firm Ernst & Young, noted in an interview that tax cuts rarely pay for themselves. “That’s the dirty little secret,” Daco said. “The notion that if you cut taxes the revenue is going to be offset by stronger economic activity is not a reality.”

That, he said, is because the so-called “implicit effect,” the multiplier of economic activity, is generally quite low. For corporations, the multiplier is about 30 to 40 cents on the dollar, Daco said.

“If you cut taxes by a dollar you get 30 to 40 cents of additional economic activity,” he said. That may sound great, but as Daco added, “from a government perspective, you’ve lost a dollar in tax revenue and you’ve generated 30 cents of additional activity which will be taxed at 15%, or 4 1/2 cents. So you’ve lost 95 1/2 cents of revenue,” which could be used to pay for Social Security, Medicare, the military or even to pay down the national debt.

And if the existing tax cuts are extended past their 2025 expiration date, that’s not going to be good for the economy.

“If you extend the tax cuts, you get less revenue and have an increase in the debt,” Daco said. “We are running deficits of around 6% of GDP in good times. This is a concern from a fiscal standpoint and it does lead to higher interest payments on debt.”

The Trump tariffs​

We’ve looked at them before, and they are still a generally bad idea. A recent Peterson Institute study found that the tariffs would cost an average household at least $2,600 a year, and a study from Yale University’s Budget Lab found that the cost could be as high as $7,600. That’s nothing for Elon Musk or John Paulsen, two of Trump’s billionaire supporters. But for lower-income Americans, much of whose income is spent on imported goods like shirts and shoes made in China, that’s effectively a huge tax increase.

For companies that depend on imported parts or raw materials, a hike in prices and a lack of substitutes could put them out of business. A second Trump administration would basically recreate some of the effects of the pandemic’s supply chain breakdowns, but with tariffs 10 times or more higher than the first time around.

“Trump’s proposed tariffs on China ignore the realities and needs of our small businesses,” said Javier Palomarez, CEO of the United States Hispanic Business Council. “Such tariffs would increase prices for consumers, raise the cost of production for businesses, reduce sales, and decrease the employment rate.”

Basic capitalism says foreign firms won’t absorb the cost of tariffs, they’ll simply jack up prices to cover the cost of the tariffs — setting a new threshold for U.S. manufacturers, who will set their prices just as high to make as much profit as they can.

“Cutting tariffs would counter the punishing increase of the cost of living that American families are experiencing,” the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wrote in 2022, referring to Trump-era tariffs left in place by President Joe Biden. “It would also enhance the competitiveness of U.S. manufacturers, and address the unfairness of the tariff code, which hits the poor hardest.”

Tariffs are effectively a regressive sales tax, and the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that they cost the average American household more than $1,200 in 2020 alone. Contrary to popular misconception, the New York Fed wrote recently, the Trump-era tariffs, with a small add-on from Biden, “continue to be almost entirely borne by U.S. firms and consumers.”

The truth about Donald Trump's tax and tariff plans

Tariffs can't actually replace income and corporate taxes, and more to know about how Trump's plans would effect the economy

qz.com

“what about ME, ME, ME” ass MAGAT.

You mean like how Florida has no state taxes but high sales tax? Kinda sounds like i have more control of my own money and how to spend it doesn't it. In addition you don't think this plan will come with spending cuts as well? Government is getting big and the bigger it gets the more it needs to keep it going. Look at you check next time and tell me your ok with the amount of federal taxes you pay.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

You mean like how Florida has no state taxes but high sales tax? Kinda sounds like i have more control of my own money and how to spend it doesn't it. In addition you don't think this plan will come with spending cuts as well? Government is getting big and the bigger it gets the more it needs to keep it going. Look at you check next time and tell me your ok with the amount of federal taxes you pay.

Florida also has the highest inflation in the country, and the lowest salaries. Rent in FL is on par with Cali.

 

[Dameon Farrow]

It’s those “Trump gave us them checks “ ass nikkas I can’t stand

This is the wildest shyt to gain traction and shows how little folks research. Maga blames the checks for high inflation. But then they think $1 gas on day one is gonna happen. Logic has left the building.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

I have to work on location on Wednesday, and can’t get too drunk, or stay up late tomorrow.

 

[JLova]

Be careful folks. I think there’s going to be some serious violence coming.