2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

WHO WINS?


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the cac mamba

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People keep saying Kamala wasn’t a good candidate and a random white guy with limited/no national profile and no federal executive experience (Shapiro, Newsome) would’ve been better…then in the same breath say racism and misogyny have nothing to do with the election :mjlol: You can’t make this up
-racism and misogyny did have something to do with the election
-kamala is an awful politician, and a white man would have had a better chance, also because he would not have been biden's VP/attached at the hip

not sure anyone is denying either of those facts right now
 
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Which is wild considering all you hear from that generation is how they can't wait for the Boomers to die off so this country can fulfill its promises yet, they voted for the same old shyt again. They're no better than the generations that came before that they make seem like the worse mf's to ever inhabit the planet.
Even tho they're wrong people in my generation are looking at the cost of living, housing crisis, and how much jobs are paying and they went with the guy who cant deliver any of that but is willing to lie that he will. The issue with growing up with the world at your fingertips is you get lazy with verifying sources
i'll go to my grave believing that not only would democrats have made up enough of the gap (what the fukk else is pelosi good for), but it wasn't about money. it's 2024, everyone has a smartphone, cable tv is dying; money wasn't what decided this election

what did that money end up getting us? losing every swing state :mjlol:
:hubie:I agree, look how much money Kamala raised and she was the least likable candidate in the 2019 primaries. The messaging is flawed, the digital outreach must be modernized and every Dem in leadership over 70 needs to start working as shadow figures and let people who can set up a wifi router call the shots
 

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Which principles do you agree with?

Men, and by extension masculinity, is not inherently toxic at all. This movement to protect women by infantilizing them at the expense of men helps no one.

No one should be shamed or blamed for their immutable characteristics.

Constantly brow beating and silencing others because they have a difference of opinion stalls progress.

Accusing someone of being a homophobe, transphobe, sexist, or racist is just a way to shut down discussion because the accuser usually does not know the issue they are spouting on about. Case in point this thread and others allude to discussions about tariffs being bad when that is not inherently true. Tariffs have been used by countries for hundreds of years for various reasons. If you mention that the Biden admin also wisely kept Trump's tariffs and even extended some, you will be accused of being a racist or some shyt.

Believe All Women, the Me Too movement, and the BLM organization were wastes of everyone's time and led to a lot of mentally ill morons grandstanding on the political stage. After the Kavanaugh stupidity, we had a black woman in her hearing for the SC being asked "What is a woman?". Not sure if it was worse that she had to play politics and wouldn't answer or that the question had to be asked in the first place.

Life is difficult for people all over the political spectrum. Playing status games and masking your envy in fake virtue and fake compassion is hoe behavior. At least some of the MAGA people are willing to talk TO people and not AT them and keep it real.
 

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Democrats' image is moist and weak, and they got destroyed with men of all races

do with that what you will :yeshrug:
All those men who didn't vote for him in 2020 but did in 2024 (in particular those put off with Dems 'moist and weakness') would not have made up for that 15 million voter deficit.
 

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A lot of people want dems to be MAGA lite. They want to throw trans people under the bus.

For that to work they'll also have to throw black people (the most consistently disliked group amongst conservatives if we're being honest), homosexuals, nonreligious people, immigrants, and basically anyone who's not a WASP under the bus.

At that point you may as well just vote GOP. :yeshrug:
 

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-racism and misogyny did have something to do with the election
-kamala is an awful politician, and a white man would have had a better chance, also because he would not have been biden's VP/attached at the hip

not sure anyone is denying either of those facts right now
You can say she’s awful all you want, but when you say a random white man would’ve beat Trump, you’re admitting that race and gender was the main factor in the race. Being attached to Biden is a Trojan horse for said racism and misogyny.

An 80 year old cognitively deteriorating racist, rapist felon won the national election on a platform of dictatorship against a 60 year old, accomplished, educated black woman who ran on a platform of democracy.

All of this talk of democrats fumbling is nothing but avoiding the fact that the majority of the country are stupid, racist POS. If the strategy discussion is how to reach those people or work around those people, great . Anything other than that is not acknowledging the true issue.

She ran the best campaign anybody could’ve ran in that window of time.
 

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