so why pander to them?
will someone please explain the political payoff to me? why fukking do this? why allow this to tarnish the party's image at all?
2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House
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will someone please explain the political payoff to me? why fukking do this? why allow this to tarnish the party's image at all?
Smoking With Cigarettes
Superstar
Tbf it prob came down to money in the end. Kamala had access to Bidens donations whereas another Dem wouldn'tfukk
god damn, man. obama couldn't have held court behind the scenes? sat kamala's ass down, and set her straight? all she would have had to do was make one fukking speech, that "i'm not seeking the presidency", and everyone would have understood and moved on
i'll go to my grave believing that not only would democrats have made up enough of the gap (what the fukk else is pelosi good for), but it wasn't about money. it's 2024, everyone has a smartphone, cable tv is dying; money wasn't what decided this election
what did that money end up getting us? losing every swing state
Is that the reason why 15 million voters didn't show up?so why pander to them?
will someone please explain the political payoff to me? why fukking do this? why allow this to tarnish the party's image at all?
the only question is whether it helps, or it hurts
just tell me with a straight face that it helps
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
Why target ONE person? Mind you, Nebraska is conservative as fukk. They passed the policy.so why pander to them?
will someone please explain the political payoff to me? why fukking do this? why allow this to tarnish the party's image at all?
LV Koopa
Jester from Hell
Ideology with regards to what specifically?
I don't want Democrats to be anything specifically either. They just need to stop being elitist and condescending towards the people they need votes from. It's like many have forgotten that politicians are supposed to serve the people, the people do not owe them their votes.
I'm not MAGA but I do agree with some of their principles.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Which principles do you agree with?
Honestly anyone that concerned with trannies would have voted for Trump anyway. Most people don't really care about it. I'm not saying we should pander to them to the extent we do but I doubt Dems taking a tougher stance on trans will move anyone already on the right to the left. At least not enough to significantly sway the election. When 15 million voters don't show up there's a deeper issue at play here.the only question is whether it helps, or it hurts
just tell me with a straight face that it helps
the next guy
Superstar
A lot of people want dems to be MAGA lite. They want to throw trans people under the bus.
People keep saying Kamala wasn’t a good candidate and a random white guy with limited/no national profile and no federal executive experience (Shapiro, Newsome) would’ve been better…then in the same breath say racism and misogyny have nothing to do with the election You can’t make this up
You can’t make this up
Democrats' image is moist and weak, and they got destroyed with men of all races
do with that what you will
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
They’re cacs. Their racism is implicit even if they aren’t aware of itPeople keep saying Kamala wasn’t a good candidate and a random white guy with limited/no national profile and no federal executive experience (Shapiro, Newsome) would’ve been better…then in the same breath say racism and misogyny have nothing to do with the election
