2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

[Outlaw]

I don't think it's up to the United States to unilaterally "allow" or "disallow" this kind of conduct by foreign countries. I believe a democratic body of the international community (aka the UN) should be the ones to hold Russia to account for their illegal invasion of Ukraine. But because the United States has effectively, structurally neutered the UN to the point where international democracy is not a practical reality at this point in time, I believe a diplomatic resolution to this conflict should be prioritized over the current policy of the Military Industrial Complex and the decrepit Cold Warriors currently running US foreign policy being allowed to dump endless arms into Ukraine to stoke the war in pursuit of their fever dream of regime change in Russia.

So your strategy would be appeasement? Worked out for the world prior to ww2.

Russia won’t stop at Ukraine.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

If we just keep pushing, it's over. We are going to have our first female president. North Carolina hasn't been blue since 2008. This means Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin have fallen according to the GOP because North Carolina shouldn't be up for grabs based on recent history. This is the 'break glass in case of emergency' scenario for Republicans.

 

[King Kreole]

There is no diplomatic resolution to the situation between Ukraine and Russia that doesn't end up with Ukraine ceding its rightful territory.

Correct.

Knowing the history of any of the countries involved talking about diplomatic solutions is unserious.

There have been multiple diplomatic resolutions to this conflict already offered up, including very early on, in which envoys from both sides were serious about engaging in, but the Biden Administration put their thumb on the scale to persuade Ukraine to reject and keep fighting because the war profiteers that fund the Biden Administration and US Government in general are using Ukraine as a profit center.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

 

[King Kreole]

So your strategy would be appeasement? Worked out for the world prior to ww2.

Russia won’t stop at Ukraine.

Yeah this is the refrain we constantly hear from war profiteers, but it's obviously a completely foolish argument. Russia barely has the military capacity to grind out stalemate conditions in Eastern Ukraine and we're supposed to believe they're going to be knocking on the doorstep of Paris and London next. Let's be serious.

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

If we just keep pushing, it's over. We are going to have our first female president. North Carolina hasn't been blue since 2008. This means Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin have fallen according to the GOP because North Carolina shouldn't be up for grabs based on recent history. This is the 'break glass in case of emergency' scenario for Republicans.

Let me try to spoil this just to see where I might be wrong.

What if Mark Robinson is a unique actor who has dragged NC into swing state status, but what he has done to lose the governorship in 2024 is not commonly replicable and doesn't indicate that if NC is in danger and it's redder than MI/WI/PA, this means the latter three states are voting blue?

 

[Outlaw]

Yeah this is the refrain we constantly hear from war profiteers, but it's obviously a completely foolish argument. Russia barely has the military capacity to grind out stalemate conditions in Eastern Ukraine and we're supposed to believe they're going to be knocking on the doorstep of Paris and London next. Let's be serious.

They’re getting stalemated due to our support. Russia probably would have steamrolled Ukraine without our backing.

Just because they wouldn’t be able to take Paris or London it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be able to retake previous Soviet bloc lands. Their sovereignty is just as valid.

 

[jmegamar]

If we just keep pushing, it's over. We are going to have our first female president. North Carolina hasn't been blue since 2008. This means Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin have fallen according to the GOP because North Carolina shouldn't be up for grabs based on recent history. This is the 'break glass in case of emergency' scenario for Republicans.

I mean I see how that’s a strategy but don’t know how much I believe this list with all the typos/misspellings

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Let me try to spoil this just to see where I might be wrong.

What if Mark Robinson is a unique actor who has dragged NC into swing state status, but what he has done to lose the governorship in 2024 is not commonly replicable and doesn't indicate that if NC is in danger and it's redder than MI/WI/PA, this means the latter three states are voting blue?

All of this would said if Trump was actually interested in helping down ballot candidates. He's only out for himself.

He went from this.



Calling him MLK on steroids to this.



He's in NC because it's looking bad for HIM and not the girl scout stealing JBO member running for office there.

 

[acri1]

No way in hell does this happen.....does it?

No, because he's the "right" kind of illegal immigrant

 

[mastermind]

"And in some of the pictures, they’re sitting in his lap. I mean, and, and then there’s one I especially remember where there’s a stain, a telltale stain and on the front of Trump’s pants, and the girls are pointing at him and laughing.”

This makes me suspicious of the veracity of Michael Wolff's story here. We're to believe that trained sex workers are pointing and laughing at their John, a moment which just happened to be caught on camera? That detail seems specifically designed to humiliate Trump, it's a little too "and then the whole bus cheered".

these “journalists” sitting on stories like this to sell books and podcasts is revolting but absolutely modern America.

 

[Frump]

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

Biggest clue they might be wrong in her favor is that they were wrong in Biden's/Dems' favor in '22, and the same conditions are present for this to happen again.

I have to say that Republicans running people like Robinson and Lake in swing states is probably a gift, too.

 

[Outlaw]

Biggest clue they might be wrong in her favor is that they were wrong in Biden's/Dems' favor in '22, and the same conditions are present for this to happen again.

I have to say that Republicans running people like Robinson and Lake in swing states is probably a gift, too.

It’s important to remember, economic conditions were way worse in 2022 and Republicans still weren’t able to have an overwhelming victory.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

A lot of us are just tried of the bullshyt, tired of always fighting against shytheads like this. Being black, it's exhausting to be a member of the only race that understands that when they come for one group, they don't stop at one group. They come for us all over time. However, we endure. My story and many other stories does not happen in other places, and that is acknowledging that things aren't perfect here but too many people fought for us to get to this point. We can't cede what was earned for us.

Additionally, you are starting to see these come out. These numbers are showing what time it is.

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