2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

[N.J.stan]

alot of media are against this VP pick morning joe are very skeptical and alot of critics from cnn as well. She should have gone with shapiro and secured PA. She doubled down on the notion that it is a Liberal ticket which she doesn't need in swing states. It's a big political mistake. Twitter isn't the reflection of the real world, far left liberals online shouldn't be any determining factor in vp selection. 19 electoral votes in PA that's the entire ball game and she passed on it to please liberals not swing voters. I will come back to this post in Nov after the PA call. I truly hope im wrong

Shut up retard ass agent

 

[mastermind]

The campaign advisory board are surrogates who essentially stomp for the candidates. They don't set policy and shouldn't be making sweeping policy statements prior to the election.

Yes, you are almost there. They are surrogates and they don't say things the campaign isn't thinking, right? That's why they are surrogates.

 

[King Kreole]

Until Wes Moore becomes an official member of the Harris administration, we don't care about his opinion.

"who is a close ally of Harris" tells you everything you need to know about that tweet, question and statement.

Kamala has obviously had an incredibly short timeframe as the nominee, but it's the Harris campaign's refusal to put out any sort of official policy position set (outside of endorsing Biden's last minute Supreme Court reform proposal) that has opened the door to this kind of speculation gaining legitimacy. I completely understand why they are hesitant to pin her down on any specific policies because it's going to piss off some potential constituency, but it's irresponsible governance. It's great from a political perspective, but bad from a governance perspective.

 

[wire28]

What city has the most Michigan Muslims?

Dearborn

 

[Hood Critic]

Yes, you are almost there. They are surrogates and they don't say things the campaign isn't thinking, right? That's why they are surrogates.

There is no official Harris policy platform or framework at this time, the campaign's positions are being communicated as tweaks/modifications to Biden's policies because they want to set a contrast between her and Biden, but not drive a wedge.

There is no definitive policy framework of the campaign, so there is nothing that should lead us to conclude that's their thinking.

 

[Big Jo]

Here's the thing about PA. I don't think it's a wrap yet and here's why.. It's not about 2016. We know Hilary ran a horrible campaign. We know this. 2016 was an outlier in terms of a Democrat losing the state..

However, I believe turnout in 2020 was around 76% (I'll recheck this) for PA and Biden won by around 80,000 votes or so. That's still close for having such a high turnout.

Compare it to 2012 and Obama defeated Romney by 300,000 votes.

Compare it to 2008 and Obama defeated McCain by 600,000 votes

A popular Dem in Biden with high turnout in the state vs. a horrible candidate in Trump who everyone saw on full display for 4 years and the margin was 80,000 votes... that doesn't sit well with me and is why I am cautious about the state of PA...

Fetterman won here in 2022. A literal socialist who damn near had a stroke during his debate beat a media darling endorsed by Trump

Shapiro smoked a MAGA election denier in the Gov. race too

It was a literal line wrapping around several blocks to get into the rally yesterday. Truly staggering. Trump couldn’t even get the upper deck filled there in June. Hell Vance was in South Philly yesterday and word on the street is 200 people showed up. I go to wrestling conventions at that facility and there’s higher turnout

What’s your indication of momentum to signal PA would flip from blue in 2020 to red in 2024? I can’t think of anything. What am I missing?

 

[The axe murderer]

Trump Campaign Criticizes Walz for State Law Providing Tampons in Schools

The law, which was passed in Minnesota last year, includes language requiring menstrual products to be available in bathrooms of all schools for grades 4 to 12 as a way to accommodate transgender students.

www.nytimes.com

This is am attack angle? Are you serious?

 

[wire28]

The campaign advisory board are surrogates who essentially stomp for the candidates. They don't set policy and shouldn't be making sweeping policy statements prior to the election.

Your first mistake was expecting smooth mind not to jump on an opportunity to hand wring and complain without offering any solutions

 

[mastermind]

There is no official Harris policy platform or framework at this time, the campaign's positions are being communicated as tweaks/modifications to Biden's policies because they want to set a contrast between her and Biden, but not drive a wedge.

There is no definitive policy framework of the campaign, so there is nothing that should lead us to conclude that's their thinking.

There's nothing to suggest she isn't, either.

I am very skeptical of how she will handle these issues because of where she courts money and who she has on her team.

I hope to be wrong, but if these comments don't make you skeptical, you are wild.

 

[No1]

Fetterman won here in 2022. A literal socialist who damn near had a stroke during his debate beat a media darling endorsed by Trump

Shapiro smoked a MAGA election denier in the Gov. race too

It was literal line around wrapping around several blocks to get into the rally yesterday. It was staggering. Trump couldn’t even get the upper deck filled there in June. Hell Vance was in South Philly yesterday and word on the street is 200 people showed up. I go to wrestling conventions at that facility and there’s higher turnout

What’s your indication of momentum to signal PA would flip from blue in 2020 to red in 2024? I can’t think of anything. What am I missing?

Nothing. Dude is a bozo. Now you’re understanding my approach to him.

 

[mastermind]

Wow

Tim Walz doesn't own any stocks: What to know about Kamala Harris' running mate's personal finances

Gov. Tim Walz's financial disclosures reveal a man of relatively modest means.

www.businessinsider.com

He owns no stocks, lol.

 

[mastermind]

Fetterman won here in 2022. A literal socialist who damn near had a stroke during his debate beat a media darling endorsed by Trump

Shapiro smoked a MAGA election denier in the Gov. race too

It was literal line around wrapping around several blocks to get into the rally yesterday. It was staggering. Trump couldn’t even get the upper deck filled there in June. Hell Vance was in South Philly yesterday and word on the street is 200 people showed up. I go to wrestling conventions at that facility and there’s higher turnout

What’s your indication of momentum to signal PA would flip from blue in 2020 to red in 2024? I can’t think of anything. What am I missing?

You shouldn't engage him. He does not know what he is talking about.

 

[Hood Critic]

Kamala has obviously had an incredibly short timeframe as the nominee, but it's the Harris campaign's refusal to put out any sort of official policy position set (outside of endorsing Biden's last minute Supreme Court reform proposal) that has opened the door to this kind of speculation gaining legitimacy. I completely understand why they are hesitant to pin her down on any specific policies because it's going to piss off some potential constituency, but it's irresponsible governance. It's great from a political perspective, but bad from a governance perspective.

Yes, which is why I view Moore's response as his advisory opinion of what Kamala should do rather than what her platform will look like.

 

[No1]

There is no official Harris policy platform or framework at this time, the campaign's positions are being communicated as tweaks/modifications to Biden's policies because they want to set a contrast between her and Biden, but not drive a wedge.

There is no definitive policy framework of the campaign, so there is nothing that should lead us to conclude that's their thinking.

I think it’s fair to read the tea leaves like @mastermind said. Also, Kamala has shown herself to not be an ideologue and receptive to public pressure so I think making it clear that people aren’t vibing with that stuff makes sense to do even if Wes isn’t speaking on behalf of the campaign directly.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Fetterman won here in 2022. A literal socialist who damn near had a stroke during his debate beat a media darling endorsed by Trump

Shapiro smoked a MAGA election denier in the Gov. race too

It was literal line around wrapping around several blocks to get into the rally yesterday. It was staggering. Trump couldn’t even get the upper deck filled there in June. Hell Vance was in South Philly yesterday and word on the street is 200 people showed up. I go to wrestling conventions at that facility and there’s higher turnout

What’s your indication of momentum to signal PA would flip from blue in 2020 to red in 2024? I can’t think of anything. What am I missing?

I didn't say the GOP had momentum.... but this PA doesn't look/sound like the PA of 12-16 years ago. The margins are closer and Kamala/Walz will have to get the same type of turnout from 2020 to fend off the loyal Trumptard contingent.