2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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That article is pretty useless.

It says that 538 predicted a 57% chance that the Republicans would win both chambers, and a 43% chance the Democrats would win at least one, then acts like that was a huge polling miss. That's not a polling miss, they were saying the odds were virtually 50-50 and that's about right (Democrats only made it to 51 Senate seats cause Masto barely survived with 48.8% of the vote, Warnock held on, and Fetterman flipped his seat). That's the whole reason for using percentages instead of guarentees, they said it was going to be close and it was.

It's true that overall, polls predicted the Republicans to do better in 2022. But polls underestimated Republican support in 2020, and that was a presidential election like this one. So how do we know that the polls are off the direction they were in 2022, and not the direction they were in 2020?

Beyond the poll accuracy it is clear a very large number of Americans are actively considering returning Trump to power. That alone is concerning as hell.
 

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I was at Quantico, VA on Thursday and filled up for $3.49
glad to hear it. i'm sure we won't be revisiting this topic a year from now, when putin and the saudis are bending biden over in front of the entire world, because they want trump to win the election :dead:
 

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glad to hear it. i'm sure we won't be revisiting this topic a year from now, when putin and the saudis are bending biden over in front of the entire world, because they want trump to win the election :dead:


How would you keep Putin and the Saudis from doing that, since you don't know how to lower gas prices but still want America to maintain its dependence on oil?

You have the critical thought capacity of a rock.
 

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How would you keep Putin and the Saudis from doing that, since you don't know how to lower gas prices but still want America to maintain its dependence on oil?

You have the critical thought capacity of a rock.
if you're satisfied with this administration's messaging on gas prices, you're unserious about winning :yeshrug:

this is not good enough.
 

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if you're satisfied with this administration's messaging on gas prices, you're unserious about winning :yeshrug:

this is not good enough.


So you can't answer my simple, direct question?

Over and over, you've proven that you have no idea how to lower gas prices, but you just want Biden to give away even more to Big Oil than he already has, even if it won't help, so the "messaging" would look good. It's an idiotic way to run a country. Gas prices would STILL be high, and people would STILL complain, the environment in those drilling areas would be fukked, and the only ones who would win would be the oil companies.


What would your plan be to keep Putin/Saudis from manipulating the price of oil? My plan would be to reduce our dependence on oil. But you're against that, so what's your counterproposal?
 

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So you can't answer my simple, direct question?

Over and over, you've proven that you have no idea how to lower gas prices, but you just want Biden to give away even more to Big Oil than he already has, even if it won't help, so the "messaging" would look good. It's an idiotic way to run a country. Gas prices would STILL be high, and people would STILL complain, the environment in those drilling areas would be fukked, and the only ones who would win would be the oil companies.

What would your plan be to keep Putin/Saudis from manipulating the price of oil? My plan would be to reduce our dependence on oil. But you're against that, so what's your counterproposal?
i don't want biden to be blamed for high gas prices, because it's not good in a general election. you do

let's agree to disagree :yeshrug:just remember, there are no republicans here. it's a safe space. it's OK to admit that biden can do better in certain areas
 
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You still haven't answered the question and, per usual, you continue to deflect.
if the president can't bring down gas prices, why was biden desperately releasing the strategic reserve right before the '22 midterms :ehh:

why'd he feel the need to do that, at all? try to answer without deflecting
 
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if the president can't bring down gas prices, why was biden desperately releasing the strategic reserve right before the '22 midterms :ehh:

why'd he feel the need to do that, at all? try to answer without deflecting
You're deflecting again. If you just want to use spin to create a negative narrative about Biden then just say that.

You're the most obvious sock puppet account on this entire board. It's crazy you've been allowed to return over and over again.
 

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You're deflecting again. If you just want to use spin to create a negative narrative about Biden then just say that.

You're the most obvious sock puppet account on this entire board. It's crazy you've been allowed to return over and over again.
why did biden desperately release the strategic reserve right before the election? why'd he feel the need to do that?

we both know why you aren't answering the question
 
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Voters always blame the President for gas prices, grocery prices, inflation, etc even if its not their fault.

In 2024 I expect the Saudi's to cut oil production and drive prices through the roof. Putin will do his part in whatever capacity that is. Both with the same goal of getting Trump re-elected. They know that American voters will blame Biden for gas prices going up and Trump can easily point and say "gas was cheaper when i was President".

Its still early before the 2024 fall debate, but as of now Biden cannot say to the American voter "Economically is your life better than 4 years ago?" That answer is no and voters aren't going to say no because of covid. They will say no and that Biden is to blame for this increased prices. Trump can counter punch and say before covid we had low gas prices, low mortgage rates, strong economy etc. Biden took over and ruined everything. It will work because voters are stupid.

Biden's economic message is not working right now. The whole Bidenomics thing is a joke. Yes, unemployment is low and job creation has been strong, but that doesn't resonate with voters. Inflation is their key worry and Bidenomics is ignoring that. Its tone deaf.

Politicans general instinct is to highlight strengths, downplay or dismiss weaknesses and in some cases gaslight us on what's really happening. They can't afford to do this with inflation.

Hopefully by the 2024 fall debate inflation isn't a problem anymore or its made significant process that can make the voter base more comfortable.
 

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why did biden desperately release the strategic reserve right before the election? why'd he feel the need to do that?

we both know why you aren't answering the question

Because you don't understand nor know the concepts of: price fixing, price gouging, and the point of the strategic reserve.
 
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