2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

[hashmander]

I’m confused. Bernie Sanders had heavy influence on Biden’s domestic agenda yet America responded with fully throated rejection. What does this say about America’s appetite for progressive policy?

they want to pretend that it was the democrats position on israel that caused this mass rightward shift to the party that's anti-israel apparently.

 

[the next guy]

they want to pretend that it was the democrats position on israel that caused this mass rightward shift to the party that's anti-israel apparently.

I’m confused. Bernie Sanders had heavy influence on Biden’s domestic agenda yet America responded with fully throated rejection. What does this say about America’s appetite for progressive policy?

This country is not as left wing as most of us think. We might win wave elections here and there but that's not the default state of the country.
When things get contentious, the country shifts right.

They voted for progressive policies in state referendums. They also stopped most of the abundance stuff during 2022, This was racism, unpopular foriegn policy and a canadiate that couldnt even get on rogan on time.

 

[wire28]

The sooner folks realize th average voter is @the cac mamba the better they'll be with how to move forward winning elections.

I give that cac credit. He knew white men for Harris was some bullshyt and the bros on the strip weren’t going for it. I just assumed the old racists died during Covid but a new generation was molded in the post pandemic podcast era

 

[wire28]

I’m confused. Bernie Sanders had heavy influence on Biden’s domestic agenda yet America responded with fully throated rejection. What does this say about America’s appetite for progressive policy?

Bernie sanders defended old Joe til the very end and we should never forget his undying loyalty to an old demented genocidal fool

 

[Miles Davis]

I see were still doing victory laps for fascism in here


guess that's one way to cope

The amount of people on the internet who got all the smoke for dems is truly a mask off moment, not saying they’re saviors or the good guys, but no one seem to got shyt to say about the people that’s about to fukk shyt it up completely.

 

[Wild self]

The amount of people on the internet who got all the smoke for dems is truly a mask off moment, not saying they’re saviors or the good guys, but no one seem to got shyt to say about the people that’s about to fukk shyt it up completely.

They are cowards and want to have their American version of Nazi Germany to conquer them and take orders like the bytches they are.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

I see people keep saying that Kamala should have broken with Biden, the next time you have a meeting with a group of people including your supervisor and you stand in direct opposition of many of their stances, let us know how that goes.

It's a fairytale to suggest that she could break with him. She is the VP to the president. That said, they need to figure it out and quick. I still believe that Trump is a unicorn candidate but still. Democrats need to get it together.

 

[88m3]

The amount of people on the internet who got all the smoke for dems is truly a mask off moment, not saying they’re saviors or the good guys, but no one seem to got shyt to say about the people that’s about to fukk shyt it up completely.

People have become very detached from each other and society

I don't take a lot of shyt at face value on the internet anymore especially social media because of the amount of bots and disinformation. It's completely out of control and unfortunately real people feed off of that hate and disinformation and get even more radicalized.


I don't think there are any guardrails for how far this country is about to shift politically and socially.


this certainly isn't the future I hoped for in my twenties or early thirties, worst of all the future we now face was largely preventable


the dems certainly aren't perfect but they aren't actively working to marginalize and oppress people under the guise of religion and white supremacy

 

[King Kreole]

I’m confused. Bernie Sanders had heavy influence on Biden’s domestic agenda yet America responded with fully throated rejection. What does this say about America’s appetite for progressive policy?

This is not what Kamala Harris ran on.





And this is not what Biden himself chose to focus on in the back stretch of his Presidency. He abandoned his Progressive domestic agenda/wins in favor of moderating to the center on domestic issues (immigration and the deficit) and becoming a foreign policy hawk.

 

[Loose]

It does because it seems obvious to me she has promised a lot of republicans cabinet positions, this is more similar to Obama terms than bidens. I don't see why her team( formerly bidens team) needed to make this pivot to reaching out to republicans. She already out raising trump 2:1 damn near 3:1, what does she need billionaire surrogates like Marc Cuban for?

I was raising the alarm bells while people was talking about Wayne County gonna save democracy

 

[Outlaw]

This is not what Kamala Harris ran on.





And this is not what Biden himself chose to focus on in the back stretch of his Presidency. He abandoned his Progressive domestic agenda/wins in favor of moderating to the center on domestic issues (immigration and the deficit) and becoming a foreign policy hawk.

Yes she did. She ran on populist policies, child tax credit, curbing price gouging, small business tax credit, marijuana legalization, increasing taxes on the 1%, expansion of Medicare benefits, codifying roe etc.

If Americans wanted a progressive she would have won. I’m not saying this to shyt on progressives because I support progressive policies. I’m just trying to grasp why America has rejected Bernie sanders influenced policies if the answer to winning national elections is to become more like Bernie

 

[Outlaw]

I was raising the alarm bells while people was talking about Wayne County gonna save democracy

The irony is if Biden governed from an austerity position from the beginning there probably wouldn’t have been as much inflation and Biden or Harris would have easily won re-election.

I don’t necessarily believe progressive policies generated the inflation by itself but I think the unwillingness to raise taxes was. If Biden raised taxes on the wealthy while pumping money into the lower and middle class then a recession and inflationary period could have been avoided IMO

 

[the next guy]

The amount of people on the internet who got all the smoke for dems is truly a mask off moment, not saying they’re saviors or the good guys, but no one seem to got shyt to say about the people that’s about to fukk shyt it up completely.

They had one job! Do it and none of this happens.

 

[King Kreole]

Yes she did. She ran on populist policies, child tax credit, curbing price gouging, small business tax credit, marijuana legalization, increasing taxes on the 1%, expansion of Medicare benefits etc.

The objective facts are right there in the tweet. This did not end up being a populist progressive campaign, it ended as a center-right campaign designed to appeal to allegedly disaffected Republicans, focusing on "saving the constitution and democracy". You're arguing with data and reality.

If Americans wanted a progressive she would have won. I’m not saying this to shyt on progressives because I support progressive policies. I’m just trying to grasp why America has rejected Bernie sanders influenced policies if the answer to winning national elections is to become more like Bernie

Kamala Harris did not run on Bernie Sanders influenced policies.

The election was only a couple months ago, at least give it a year before y'all start trying to rewrite history.

 

[Outlaw]

The objective facts are right there in the tweet. This did not end up being a populist progressive campaign, it ended as a center-right campaign designed to appeal to allegedly disaffected Republicans, focusing on "saving the constitution and democracy". You're arguing with data and reality.

Kamala Harris did not run on Bernie Sanders influenced policies.

The election was only a couple months ago, at least give it a year before y'all start trying to rewrite history.

Are we debating or rhetoric? Her policies never changed but her rhetoric emphasized democracy to court moderate republicans.

She didn’t backtrack on any of her stated policy positions.

What are you arguing here? Do you think the Americans that voted for a fascist in Trump would have been swayed if she worded her rhetoric in a more left wing manner? Do you think if she said a different combination of words it would have infiltrated Elon’s twitter algorithm better?

You’re the one denying reality here. The reasons why she lost is more complex than she didn’t run left enough especially when more conservative democrats won their races down ballot

By the way Kamala got more votes than Bernie in Vermont. I don’t think Bernie is in a position to dictate shyt