2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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Sowing division within the Democratic party and fracturing the base for 4 years wasn't the best move now was it.....

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

If opposing a genocide and ethnic cleansing is what “sowed division and fractured the base”, then that says more about the party than the people fighting against genocide.
 
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Still pretending that it's Biden's fault when Kamala lost 15 million of his voters somewhere.... :huhldup: Gonna be a long Winter for y'all...

Meanwhile, for the people who want to speak on something factual. If it was just "the economy, stupid" then why are so many Dems outperforming Kamala down ballot in the battleground states and other..

Because it's not just the economy. There's several factors. Racism, a little sexism thrown in there, Kamala's past comments coming back to hurt her, Dumbass Gen Z voters who listen to YouTubers and streamers all day long, Latinos, etc... etc...
LMAO at you blaming everyone but Biden. People voted for Biden in 2020 to be a one term President like he promised. He gave Kamala 3 months to run a campaign where she had to seperate herself from his bumblefukk image without coming off as outright disloyal. Your post would be so much funnier if it wasnt ripe with the mentality thats going to pick up another L in 2028
 
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Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

If opposing a genocide and ethnic cleansing is what “sowed division and fractured the base”, then that says more about the party than the people fighting against genocide.

Yeah because Gaza is the only story, right? Lol... Clearly... I'm ONLY talking about Gaza, right? ... This the problem with you single issue voters. You think everything revolves around one thing. This election wasn't won or lost on Gaza. You can look at every poll, exit poll, whatever you want. Whatever metric you want. This Election has nothing to do with Gaza.

That's not the only issue where there was division. It was countless attacks on the Biden administration from day one attempting to try to paint both sides as "the same" .... that did no favors and now look. Where do you go now?
 
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LMAO at you blaming everyone but Biden. People voted for Biden in 2020 to be a one term President like he promised. He gave Kamala 3 months to run a campaign where she had to seperate herself from his bumblefukk image without coming off as outright disloyal. Your post would be so much funnier if it wasnt ripe with the mentality thats going to pick up another L in 2028
It’s him. He doesn’t know what he is talking about. Let him cook.
 
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LMAO at you blaming everyone but Biden. People voted for Biden in 2020 to be a one term President like he promised.

Biden won. Down ballot Dems still won in the Rust Belt as well. You can keep closing your eyes to the facts but when you open them up, the reality is still the same. I told everyone in here for months that the Blue wall is where this is won or lost. It was nice to dream about GA again or NC but they were going to be much more difficult. I saw the data coming in from Nevada and was very concerned about that from the start.

PA needed to be secured and many of you ran in here with pitchforks on this idea that Shapiro... who is very popular in PA... was too risky because of Gaza when we know that Gaza isn't something most Americans are looking at. That told me all I need to know about where some of your heads are at.
 
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It’s him. He doesn’t know what he is talking about. Let him cook.
This board bordered on echo chamber post DNC to a point that I just rode out the vibes and hoped Kamalas people and internals knew what they were doing. I get a lot of people in here are coping and venting but these takes are absurd. Blaming the left wing of the party for sounding the alarm that Kamlas campaign shift/Non-answer Gaza stance would alienate voters is peak Democratic Party behaviour. The cherry on top is the confusion as to why she didn't get enough votes
 
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Biden won. Down ballot Dems still won in the Rust Belt as well. You can keep closing your eyes to the facts but when you open them up, the reality is still the same. I told everyone in here for months that the Blue wall is where this is won or lost. It was nice to dream about GA again or NC but they were going to be much more difficult. I saw the data coming in from Nevada and was very concerned about that from the start.

PA needed to be secured and many of you ran in here with pitchforks on this idea that Shapiro... who is very popular in PA... was too risky because of Gaza when we know that Gaza isn't something most Americans are looking at. That told me all I need to know about where some of your heads are at.
Biden won in 2020 where he said he would be a bridge President and then he gave his successor 3 months to salvage his fukkup. All that other shyt you typed has nothing to do with what I said. Kamala picking Shapiro doesnt win her Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, or Nevada. You gonna act like Dearborn didnt completely flip Trump? You either don't get it on a mental level or you're too emotional about this to evaluate it critically. But support another 80 year old in the next Dem general, Im sure youll be shocked when they get smoked by JV Vance
 

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What does the economy mean when real world things like housing and food skyrocketed?

For regular people economy isn’t GDP, inflation rate, output, or whatever other academic metric that tells us we are doing great. People are actually struggling out here working extra jobs, paying more for transport, dealing with price gouging—which they did finally get a handle on, but didn’t speak loudly enough about to. They keep touting unemployment rate, but if you learn about unemployment rate it’s not an accurate number for a bunch of reasons. We know people get scrubbed off after 26 weeks since they can’t apply anymore. They also call up a random number of businesses to gauge a total.

Trump is not going to do good, but Biden has fukking sucked.

But the economy is just one part. He decided to end Covid benefit programs, which I think is really why Biden started to become unpopular. Americans are now footing the bill for Ukraine in their failing war with Russia. We are also paying for a genocide.

Instead of taking time out to do policing reform, they actually doubled down and have the police more money.


I can go on but this presidency has been terrible.
You’re preaching to the choir bro. I’m a fukking warehouse supervisor. My nikkas were in PAIN. Even I felt the squeeze of the economy. Outside of straight up sending out checks, most economic policy trickles slowly. But people flat out got raises last year because of the Biden administration. And it doesn’t change the fact that shyt could have been worse. Instead of just dealing with inflation, we could have dealt with inflation, a recession and high unemployment too.

I’m not saying he will go down as the best ever and you’ll never get me to defend his foreign policy, but history will look back at this past four years much more favorably than his approval rating.
 
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This board bordered on echo chamber post DNC to a point that I just rode out the vibes and hoped Kamalas people and internals knew what they were doing. I get a lot of people in here are coping and venting but these takes are absurd. Blaming the left wing of the party for sounding the alarm that Kamlas campaign shift/Non-answer Gaza stance would alienate voters is peak Democratic Party behaviour. The cherry on top is the confusion as to why she didn't get enough votes

Gaza isn't anyone's #1 issue except the idiots on here...
 
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Gaza isn't anyone's #1 issue except the idiots on here...
You still flip flopping between Progressives destroyed the party and Gaza supporters dont have actual influence. I can take heart knowing theres no way youre driving influence on the ground so feel however you want to feel :dead: Maybe you can throw Clyburne or Michelle Obama's hat into the ring and get 2028 started early
 
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All that other shyt you typed has nothing to do with what I said.

I'm not replying to it because you are dodging the facts and I don't speak on hypotheticals like that. I look at the numbers. Kamala lost and other Dems won statewide elections in the Rust Belt. That's not fantasy or fiction. That's what happened.
 

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To be fair…she was fukked with or without a Cheney endorsement.

This entire campaign was dead before it even started.

I genuinely do not think there’s a single thing she could have done to win. Wrong timing. Wrong candidate.
Two things can be true at once: it would have taken a miracle for her to actually win given the circumstances, but the campaign also made legit blunders that the DNC needs to learn from.

It's only been three days and it looks like liberals are already learning the wrong lessons from this: "Let's just be more racist and transphobic! That'll get the voters back!" :francis:
 
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