2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

WHO WINS?


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This isnt why she lost , she lost due to the fukking economy. Those people that convinced already has bigoted perceived notions of her.
This is an economic issue though just like immigration. You and I might know things are more nuanced, but the average population doesn't. A friend of mine who was knocking doors in PA basically heard " I only have $300 left for the month to feed my family after paying bills. Why would I vote somebody who is using my tax dollars for gender surgery If they're not willing to help us"?
If it's not this particular ad, it was "why am I struggling and migrants getting $500 card for them to spend with my tax dollars"
And those people were Democrats btw, who decided to stay home rather than vote
 

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My sister is a married to a Mexican. He's from Mexico. He has been in our family for over 30 years now and is one of the best men i know aside from my own brothers and of course my pops. Definitely a guy who is a one of a kind. He just became a citizen recently and he's definitely no fukking trumper.

But his brothers are. And their biggest excuse is that they think dems will take their guns. They are big into hunting and they all have a bunch of guns.

My sister don't hold back on them either and not long ago she called them some dumb motherfukkers and don't come crying if they get deported. It boggles the mind. Even my brother in law is like, let em learn.

Those groups also like him because of his fake “machismo” and feeling that women shouldn’t lead and are below men

Dems treat groups like monoliths and are completely oblivious that alot of minority groups are socially conservative just like white people
 

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There will be a lot of Lepoards ate my face stories coming soon.

I advise to make a running thread on it.
 

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Get all these never trumpers out my party, take this shyt back to the basics


You gotta give it to them, they saw Liberals' pathological need to hug and love Republicans and created a business model on grifting them.

Maybe now that the strategy has failed twice we can go back to fukking war against Republicans? That would be nice.
 

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This is an economic issue though just like immigration. You and I might know things are more nuanced, but the average population doesn't. A friend of mine who was knocking doors in PA basically heard " I only have $300 left for the month to feed my family after paying bills. Why would I vote somebody who is using my tax dollars for gender surgery If they're not willing to help us"?
If it's not this particular ad, it was "why am I struggling and migrants getting $500 card for them to spend with my tax dollars"
And those people were Democrats btw, who decided to stay home rather than vote
It’s the “gender surgery” and the “migrants” not the $300 :comeon:
 
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The smart move would have been Biden to drop out, and a proper primary been ran. Gone are the days of the incumbency bump, at least at POTUS. The American public are fickle and desperate for change. Harris did her best, but Biden would have gotten trounced. I think with an actual primary, a front runner would have emerged that could be more free to distance him/herself from Biden's administration in ways Kamala couldn't.

I disagree with this for two reasons.

1) Lets say Biden did step out of running at midterms: We still would have had to identity politic our way through the primary (black woman - Harris, gay white guy - Pete, straight white guy - Newsom, etc) and that would have kept away some of the better challengers (Beshear, Sharpio, Schiff) but also brought in the circus (Bernie bros, Swalwell, Gillibrand). That’s the exact thing that regular voters, regardless of age and sex, are tired of.

You cause so much more damage to your candidate against someone like Trump who didn’t even debate, let alone campaign against his primary opponents. The overall focus of “Who would be best to defeat Trump and speak directly to the American people?” would have been lost behind “What type of image do we want to project?”

You say “Really? But Trump’s circus won.”

Of course it did, because the part during that 4 weeks where Biden was being pushed out everyone forgets is the jockeying, the identity politics, the media class waffling, and looking like a complete circus itself. And even worse than that, it made Trump look like he had successfully beat his rival.

The right decision at that time would have been to keep everything under wraps, have Biden campaign harder than ever while setting the stage, to come out a month later with a re-evaluation of his stress levels from both running the country and campaigning, he can’t do either, have him resign, and name a white guy as vice president. Aggressively put forth bills and legislation and force Republicans to vote against it for 90 days. Bring it to the floor. Explain to people that we need the house to flip to get stuff done.

And why that didn’t happen leads to our next issue…….

2) It doesn’t matter without turnout. We can sit here and blame white women, Latinos, black men, Muslims, and even white men aged 18-35 for voting for Trump. We can blame far left voters, Latinos, rural democrats, and men in general for not voting. But it’s a bigger problem. It’s the same people who are all playing the game to get in the best position possible. The consultant class. And then when they get there, they act like JFK’s staff pre and post assassination. They want to control everything, lock people out, and be the next David Axelrod. Or Rahm Emanuel. Or George Stepanopoulos. Have their own TV show like Jen Psaki or Nicole Wallace.

The massive problem within the consultant class of Dems is that they like to play the small edge game. They play to get to 270. They play to get 51 senators. They play to get 218 in the house. They took all that money, pumped into “areas and seats of importance” and lost is the Obama and Clinton era “Let’s go talk to everyone on every level”. That’s why there isn’t a social media apparatus. That’s why there isn’t a cohesive message built upon the backs of people at the lowest level. Ultimately, it’s why the numbers were bad AND they don’t know why it happened….. yet regular folks can figure it out within 24 hours.

We heard a lot about unfavorable maps and the Senate being tough to defend, but Dems lack unity within the party that when someone running for House is speaking to their constituents, they are also speaking for the president. There is no support system and everyone is basically playing for themselves unless they can be deemed important enough to go stump for.

They tone down the rhetoric so the voters they want won’t feel bad instead of finding new voters and motivating potential ones. They put out bland plans that the average American doesn’t understand so immediately assume it’s bad. They neuter every single thing while catering to the celebrities they want to hobknob with.

And after 2016 and 2024, it’s time for them to pass on the institutional knowledge and go on to follow their real dreams. Let other people do the real work that needs to be done.
 

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Give it 2 years and the public will go back to hating republicans because now they are in control and can’t run on the fact Dems are in control when shyt hits the fan…

The play right now is Dems control the house at least it will be 2 years of stalling…

The GOP is determined to END elections altogether.

Plus Trump is evil enough to assassinate the likes of Biden, Obama, Clinton and so on. We living in an America thatt is about to be controlled by Russia-INDEFINITELY.
 
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