2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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jerniebert

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This is what I am focusing on... not Dane or Milwaukee... how well does the W-O-W Countries that surround Milwaukee go; the Milwaukee Suburbs. The more votes we can siphon for the Democrats from this former GOP Stronghold, the easier Kamala wins.
I stayed in Waukesha by the whole foods last time I was in Milwaukee for work. I seen some Kamala signs in the area. I didn't know it was trump country though.
 

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Haven’t heard much about this lately but Trump is still due for sentencing Nov 28th correct?

So the b*stard could literally be in jail when Kamala is sworn in etc. Man that would be sweet
Sentencing on Thanksgiving day? Courts are closed bro
 

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I stayed in Waukesha by the whole foods last time I was in Milwaukee for work. I seen some Kamala signs in the area. I didn't know it was trump country though.

Long story short... the WOW Counties is where all the white people who didn't want to live Milwaukee Proper, would live. Well ever since Obama... those counties have become less of white exodus area, and just more of a general area for people to live next to Milwaukee.

Then all the Wisconsin State Supreme Court elections happened, and the 2022 Midterms with the Roe decision... those counties are slowly becoming less Republican and that scares the Wisconsin GOP.

The problem with Dane County... its a big supporter of Democratic and Progressive Ideals... but the rest of the state is rural, more Republican... so the idea has always been "Okay, Madison and Milwaukee areas will get their seats... but the rest is ours..."

But not anymore... they are losing those suburbs. The rural areas... your talking about communities around less than 20,000... the GOP needs the WOW Counties and Brown (Green Bay) from tipping too much to the Democrats... but they have absolutely no ideas to prevent this.
 

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The only way it would be possible is if black people completely don’t show up. Which doesn’t look like it’s happening right now. 45k people in Dearborn voted in 2020 and 13k of them voted for Trump.

A local detroit based pod I listen to today said right now it’s 12% and 14% turnout for Dearborn and d heights right now.

Word. What pod might I ask?
 

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Word. What pod might I ask?

Every week they been talking about the election and Michigan
 

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Long story short... the WOW Counties is where all the white people who didn't want to live Milwaukee Proper, would live. Well ever since Obama... those counties have become less of white exodus area, and just more of a general area for people to live next to Milwaukee.

Then all the Wisconsin State Supreme Court elections happened, and the 2022 Midterms with the Roe decision... those counties are slowly becoming less Republican and that scares the Wisconsin GOP.

The problem with Dane County... its a big supporter of Democratic and Progressive Ideals... but the rest of the state is rural, more Republican... so the idea has always been "Okay, Madison and Milwaukee areas will get their seats... but the rest is ours..."

But not anymore... they are losing those suburbs. The rural areas... your talking about communities around less than 20,000... the GOP needs the WOW Counties and Brown (Green Bay) from tipping too much to the Democrats... but they have absolutely no ideas to prevent this.

That makes sense. I didn't get that usual feeling that I get when I go to other maga spots. I didn't see a lot of shirts with the American flag on the sleeves. I usually see those everywhere I travel. The only place I got that maga feeling was at a breakfast spot by the hotel called the Golden Nest.
 

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tbf, I said I am cynical about them
codifying abortion.

But yeah, this coalition isn’t that strong. Maybe people become single issue voters on this, but what if a GOP candidate says they support all the other crazy shyt but are pro abortion? Again, I genuinely believe most of these politicians are not earnest, but I do hope I am wrong. I also hope that this is a gateway to people learning and leaning into more pro-poverty policies.

My question would be how could that pro-choice republican make it out a republican primary alive? Can individual republicans running for senate or governor win like that? Sure, that's happened many times over the last few decades. But there's no way a republican wins the GOP presidential nomination on a pro-choice platform.

I agree politicians aren't earnest. I also believe the important issues are endless battlefields and nobody ever declares victory. Republicans went from calling for outright repeals of the New Deal to deciding the best political approach was a slow progressive dismantling of the programs (SS and Medicaid, specifically). For decades the republican approach to abortion was to say "I'm pro-life but Roe is the law of the land." All while appointing judges that slowly set the table for its repeal. You see the same thing with Obamacare now, which is incredibly popular to the point no one wants to outright repeal it...but instead they want to slowly dismantle it.

Abortion is a third rail issue and we finally got to see what happens when a party grabs one. The losses they've taken since Dobbs are wild. And if Kamala wins, whoever emerges as the 2028 candidate will have the same baggage. There really is no escaping this, it has completely changed women's approach to politics in my opinion. Does that mean republicans never win another election? No, of course not. It just makes it much harder, and will progressively require worse and worse economic conditions in order for them to make it work.
 
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