2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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Macallik86

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[nate silver]fukk all that, what is the only credible pollster, rasmussen saying?[/nate sliver]
What he actually said yesterday:
Today, in fact, we added one post-DNC poll showing Pennsylvania as a tie, and another (conducted during the DNC) showing either a tie or Trump +1, depending on what version you prefer.

The model puts a lot of weight on this recent data because of all the changes in the race. And you can see why it thinks this is a problem for her: if she’s only tied in Pennsylvania now, during what should be one of her stronger polling periods, that implies being a slight underdog in November.

Now, all of this could change quickly with one or two high-quality polls showing Harris ahead in the Keystone State. The model is relying more heavily than I’d prefer on the Emerson College poll as it’s the only fully post-DNC/RFK data point — although note, again, that the immediate pre-DNC polls hadn’t been great for Harris in Pennsylvania either.
And here are the FIVE most recent polls out of PA.
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Notice above the influence column has Rasmussen ranked the worst in the model and so it has a lessened impact on the model too.

I'm sure Kamala's strategists are on it. No need for a circle-jerk, beating up the messenger or burying our heads in the sand.
 
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Here is Pod Save America w/ their in-house pollster, also talking about PA (timestamp):


Cliff notes:
  • PA is where Trump was shot and was swamped w/ local coverage of the shooting in a way potentially tougher to overcome
  • Performing different than WI & MI (larger, harder to organize)
  • Need to crush Philly & the burbs and then weather the rest of the MAGA onslaught
 
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What he actually said yesterday:

And here are the FIVE most recent polls out of PA.
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Notice above the influence column has Rasmussen ranked the worst in the model and so it has a lessened impact on the model too.

I'm sure Kamala's strategists are on it. No need for a circle-jerk, beating up the messenger or burying our heads in the sand.
Fabrizio, InsiderAdvantage, Cygnal, and Rasmussen are all GOP pollsters.
 

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Fabrizio, InsiderAdvantage, Cygnal, and Rasmussen are all GOP pollsters.
Look at their influence weightings. Their historical bias is why they are given lower influence on the model as a result. Basically, all of those polls combined have a smaller impact on the model than one Emerson Poll.
 

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I'm not voting for either.

I also live in a deep blue state, so my vote for president doesn't matter, my state's EC votes are going to Kamala.

Objectively, Kamala >> Trump but she's also mid. Can't go stand in line for 2 hours for some mid :pachaha:

Y'all be safe though

what blue state has a two hour wait line to vote? :dwillhuh:


 
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